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36. A rifle is only as good as the person shooting it
Wed Apr 24, 2013, 12:11 PM
Apr 2013

A trained sniper would be vastly more efficient with a $300 Walmart rifle than your average joe with those fancy rifles.

Why not reinterpret the 2nd and have zero guns in the streets for private individuals graham4anything Apr 2013 #1
So your goal is to only have zero guns "in the streets"? Why does anyone need a sniper rifle? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #7
So a poster says that guns should be removed from the streets and your response is "Why would anyone EOTE Apr 2013 #19
Are you suggesting that questions should be banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #23
I'm suggesting that you have an agenda. EOTE Apr 2013 #26
Everyone has an agenda. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #40
Yours is quite transparent and it's not what you pretend it is. nt EOTE Apr 2013 #44
If you have a logical reason for banning sniper rifles, why not post it? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #49
You were the one who posted teh OP. If YOU have a logical reason for banning sniper rifles, why EOTE Apr 2013 #50
Thank you for the suggestion. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #55
It's a ignorant and deceptive question. EOTE Apr 2013 #57
IMO, people respond with fact-free insults when they are too ignorant to respond with logic. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #60
You haven't presented a single fact in this whole OP. EOTE Apr 2013 #65
he doesn't want debate backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #63
Wrong. And wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #68
I think you responded to the wrong person. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #85
I think that you're right. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #99
Either that or the poster hasn't read your posts to CokeMachine Apr 2013 #110
There is no clear distinction between a hunting rifle and a "sniper" rifle. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #212
I will agree whole heartedly as soon as we ban all carbohydrates in our food supply galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #31
hahHahhahahahahahahhaha!!! darkangel218 Apr 2013 #128
Mayor Bloomberg, is that you? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2013 #247
This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Apr 2013 #39
You constantly conflate your belief that the second amendment will be reinterpreted onenote Apr 2013 #41
No thanks. nt darkangel218 Apr 2013 #127
You've said this on here a lot. I don't get it. Captain Stern Apr 2013 #174
The goal is law abiding citizens get OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #176
There's some indicatation that firearms are still owned by some of the rich and the Royals in the UK AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #180
What does that have to do with anything? OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #209
Strange. In post #176 which I was responding to, you specifically said "Britain took the guns away." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #218
I explained that you can have a shotgun OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #219
Excuse me, but I did not see any reference to shotguns in post #176 to which I was responding. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #223
You made references to hunting OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #231
Some people believe and spread the mistaken belief that guns are banned in Britain. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #235
You are desperately grasping at straws now OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #240
When someone says that Britain banned guns without qualification, they intend for others to AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #242
I'm only going to say this one more time OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #250
So you admit "except for shotguns." Why didn't you admit that in the first place? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #254
LOL OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #262
No one wants to give you "a coronary". I'm done. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #263
Lighten up, it was a joke OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #267
Wrong. supernaut Apr 2013 #201
He's wrong about that too? Who would have thought? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #204
And you wonder why gun owners scream about rl6214 Apr 2013 #226
Do you want the blunt honest answer? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #2
Is that an NRA talking point? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #9
No. (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #11
What's the difference between a sniper rifle and a hunting rifle? kudzu22 Apr 2013 #3
I hear that applies to other guns, too. But that's just me. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #15
Not much at all premium Apr 2013 #34
Could it be that isn't a sniper rifle, but is actually a hunting rifle? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #4
Whatever the percentage, if they account for firearm deaths, shouldn't they be banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #10
Since probably every gun made accounts for some percentage of firearm deaths Bake Apr 2013 #52
Wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #56
Then why ban so-called "sniper" rifles? Bake Apr 2013 #58
Find those who want to ban "assault rifles" and you may find those who want to ban "sniper rifles." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #59
No doubt. Bake Apr 2013 #90
If you banned everything that could potentially OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #211
Ah Electric Monk Apr 2013 #92
Wait! That's NRAtalkingPoint™ No.20356. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #17
You're right, of course. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #18
I thought it was No.20355 sylvi Apr 2013 #243
Any good hunting rifle can be used for sniping FarCenter Apr 2013 #5
Low-capacity magazine and bolt-action chambering. Aristus Apr 2013 #6
When hunting game such as deer states limit the capacity of the magazine in ... spin Apr 2013 #29
the dc snipers? DeadEyeDyck Apr 2013 #105
Once again, look at the number of victims with sniper rifles. Aristus Apr 2013 #108
They used an AR-15, not a bolt action deer rifle/sniper rifle. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #133
That's not the rifle the DC snipers used. rl6214 Apr 2013 #227
good point focusing on mass shooters. Another counters the "criminals will always get guns" yurbud Apr 2013 #238
First things first. Robb Apr 2013 #8
So wouldn't it be easier to ban sniper rifles? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #12
It would probably be the most difficult ban possible to enact, actually. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #54
You're right, of course. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #72
Probably not. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #134
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #277
Does that take a clip or is it the kind you pull the handle back? newmember Apr 2013 #13
Good question. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #16
That is a normal bolt-action rifle with a high quality scope. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #135
Internal magazine premium Apr 2013 #51
And what kind of "hunting rifle" did you imagine? oneshooter Apr 2013 #78
Nice wood grain and maybe the person holding it wearing knickers newmember Apr 2013 #107
This plays to the NRA theme- slippery slope BS ksoze Apr 2013 #14
No, that's NRAtalkingPoint™ No.20357. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #20
If they have that many, it must be the 10188 repeat Progressive dog Apr 2013 #126
"...watching some of Wayne," Still sourcing old oaters? Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #230
Sourcing the gun nuts' leaders Progressive dog Apr 2013 #232
Oh, I thought it was Johnny-O. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #233
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #278
I googled sniper rifles , PEOPLE can really buy these newmember Apr 2013 #21
Maybe some people can. Have you seen the prices? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #24
Tell me it's a joke that any person can buy one of these. Please watch this , insane newmember Apr 2013 #27
A rifle is only as good as the person shooting it Nolimit Apr 2013 #36
Building your own is much cheaper.. sir pball Apr 2013 #64
Why shouldnt they be able to? justanidea Apr 2013 #30
Those are sniper rifles not hunting rifles newmember Apr 2013 #32
A rifle is a sniper rifle when it is used by a sniper justanidea Apr 2013 #35
There is no difference in equipment. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #66
Please watch the video I posted newmember Apr 2013 #77
It's just a marketing name. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #80
It's not just a marketing name newmember Apr 2013 #83
Both hunters and military want the same thing - accuracy. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #84
You have no clue at all what you are talking about. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #140
yes I do newmember Apr 2013 #151
Then you would not say 'these are not hunting rifles'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #162
And where do you think the features they refine for the military and police... krispos42 Apr 2013 #171
Sure any rifle can be used to hunt but when the military asks for a sniper rifle newmember Apr 2013 #172
They already can krispos42 Apr 2013 #173
More lethal than the average hunting rifle? rl6214 Apr 2013 #228
"If it's in 7.62mm NATO, I can go to a gun store ..." Maybe in your area. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #190
I actually went shooting today krispos42 Apr 2013 #199
Years ago, I used to press my own until I had time constraints and just bought off the shelf. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #202
Oooo, can of worms with that one. krispos42 Apr 2013 #210
What, specifically, would you ban about those rifles, without affecting "hunting" or "target" rifles sir pball Apr 2013 #116
That's not a hunting rifle newmember Apr 2013 #152
It's built and sold as such sir pball Apr 2013 #153
Who is the builder and markets that as a hunting rifle? newmember Apr 2013 #157
Dixie Precision Rifles sir pball Apr 2013 #160
Actually, it's an excellent rifle for most game in North America, with perhaps the exception of AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #139
Here's a photo from the web showing an animal in Pennsylvania that might be annoyed. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #147
'Hogzilla' was about 800lbs. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #163
And the difference in your mind is.... ? AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #138
Because that is a hunting rifle. bamacrat Apr 2013 #22
Virtually every deer hunter has a scoped rifle,,,, deaniac21 Apr 2013 #25
I don't. Travis_0004 Apr 2013 #106
Learn something new every day.... ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #124
Its a bit safer wercal Apr 2013 #130
Same thing in Illinois. No rifle hunting. DonP Apr 2013 #155
Unless the rules have changed, I think that hunting with muzzleloaders are legal provided that AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #158
Correct, I know several counties have a ML season. I was just thinking of centerfire rifles. DonP Apr 2013 #159
Because people use them for hunting? nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #28
if that is chambered in .300wsm backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #33
Does yours have much of a kick? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #37
it does backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #38
if you want kick backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #43
I thought so too, but it's too short to be mine sir pball Apr 2013 #62
Gun Enthusiast Flame Bait. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #42
Since it appears impossible to pass an assault weapons ban ... spin Apr 2013 #45
because he is baiting gun owners backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #46
Wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #47
I'm asking a question. Others can post what they want. I'm not suggesting banning a bolt action AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #48
Especially one that is inherently flawed and dangerous. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #61
Would you only favor banning "sniper rifles" manufactured by a company sued by some of its customers AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #67
This one should have been banned long ago. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #73
Lawn darts are banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #75
Yes Savannahmann Apr 2013 #76
They are no longer manufactured. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #82
I own a 700 and Bay Boy Apr 2013 #86
So the obvious question is this. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #89
I did take it to a gunsmith and had it modified... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #95
That trigger has not been made Chuuku Davis Apr 2013 #136
That's reasonable. ... spin Apr 2013 #96
Was a "sniper rifle" used at Newtown? Aurora? Columbine? Bake Apr 2013 #53
Pick the sniper rifle sarisataka Apr 2013 #69
Obviously "C," if you like a 1907 design and you're sniping prairie dogs. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #74
I do sarisataka Apr 2013 #91
. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #70
Because a hunting rifle is a sniper rifle. Rex Apr 2013 #71
I wonder if sneaking up on any of those feral hogs that we hear about would work? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Apr 2013 #79
Nice rifle, don't think i want to pack that around on a hunt pediatricmedic Apr 2013 #81
Good job!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #87
Thanks, friend. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #100
Back at ya!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #111
It doesn't take much to impress you, does it? (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #118
You impress me -- hope that makes you feel special. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #121
Lol. The first rifle I ever bought myself was a Remington 700 Xithras Apr 2013 #88
The USMC M40 sarisataka Apr 2013 #93
You may have already seen this. But, if not, more interesting information can be found here: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #102
That is an interesting link sarisataka Apr 2013 #113
S f AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #115
I can't believe how many DUers think you are baiting Gungeoneers. bluedigger Apr 2013 #94
Thanks. Your comments are appreciated. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #101
The Remington 700 has been around forever and is one of the most popular hunting rifles around 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #97
Handguns would make more sense madville Apr 2013 #98
Strange fascination -- training with sniper rifles. I doubt anyone is going to need to defend Hoyt Apr 2013 #104
Strange fascination -- Seeking to undermine the views of firearm-owning Democrats with insults AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #112
Target shooting for the sake of target shooting. hack89 Apr 2013 #114
I love long-range target shooting, but for reasons you probably literally couldn't understand. sir pball Apr 2013 #117
Sniper rifle induced Zen -- now that is sad. Hoyt Apr 2013 #119
Are bows or swords somehow less offensive to you? sir pball Apr 2013 #122
To keep you happy in your guns, we have to allow the "schmucks" to collect these type weapons. Hoyt Apr 2013 #123
Most of them are shooting at impossibly small circles through iron sites REP Apr 2013 #131
So what would you restrict to eliminate the "sniper"appeal? sir pball Apr 2013 #149
Truthfully, I'd like to see gun cultists start acting responsibly, and become Hoyt Apr 2013 #150
Define "spirit of the law abiding"? sir pball Apr 2013 #156
I think target shooting and playing golf share the same mentality NickB79 Apr 2013 #120
Let's be progressive on the 2A. ileus Apr 2013 #109
I agree. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #129
Anybody think these fucking things should be available... Bigmack Apr 2013 #125
$10K for the gun, $4.50 per round. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #164
"Have at it.."? WTF Bigmack Apr 2013 #165
You are probably over estimating your shooting abilities. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #182
My shooting abilities are not the question... Bigmack Apr 2013 #186
So you want to restrict any rifle in any caliber that is accurate past 1000 yards? hack89 Apr 2013 #189
Man...! This is amazing. Bigmack Apr 2013 #192
It just seems like a silly thing to fixate on hack89 Apr 2013 #195
Fixate..?What the hell is wrong with you..? Bigmack Apr 2013 #203
I am not defending the guns. I am questioning your logic. hack89 Apr 2013 #213
Are you being intentionally obtuse..? Bigmack Apr 2013 #215
But they are not killing people while all those other guns are. hack89 Apr 2013 #216
Any asshole who can legally own a rifle should be able to buy one Joseph Ledger Apr 2013 #168
Jesus Fucking Christ...! Bigmack Apr 2013 #177
Not your grandpappy's .30-.30... Bigmack Apr 2013 #178
There is nothing extraordinary about that rifle wercal Apr 2013 #132
Some think that it is rugged and exceptionally accurate. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #141
Really? wercal Apr 2013 #142
Yes, "Some think that it is rugged and exceptionally accurate." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #148
The Remington 700 is about as well made a production gun as can be bought 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #220
Please define Chuuku Davis Apr 2013 #137
Like "assault" rifle, most folks know what it means. Hoyt Apr 2013 #145
I don't know the difference between the two Jake Izzy Apr 2013 #143
These days that is possible. Traditionally jmg257 Apr 2013 #146
Think it's hard to articulate "Assault Weapons"? It'll be mind-boggling to jmg257 Apr 2013 #144
Why do you give a fck if someone owns a rifle? geckosfeet Apr 2013 #154
Because, if they are mentally ill... Bigmack Apr 2013 #181
no. not really. i don't respond to that kind of fear mongering. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #206
A person like that OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #241
Why not just ban shooting living things with anything? flvegan Apr 2013 #161
Because that would be, well...really dumb. Joseph Ledger Apr 2013 #167
Never heard of a "sniper rifle." That's just a rifle, right? Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #166
You've never heard of a "sniper" rifle? Really? Is that an NRA talking point? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #169
Are you an NRA nut? Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #183
You say, "I will remember the name....mcintosh." Do you scare many people? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #184
Many semi-automatic rifles are used as sniper rifles. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #224
Yes, but the rifle in the original posting is a manually operated bolt action rifle 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #234
Sniper with sniper rifles , hunter with shotgun newmember Apr 2013 #170
These are... sarisataka Apr 2013 #175
Clothes make the difference? Would you be in favor of banning certain types of clothes? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #179
I still haven't heard a reason for owning a sniper rifle newmember Apr 2013 #196
When you become Secretary of Needs, your opinion will matter. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #207
Two things that don't exist except in the mind, Superman and Sniper Rifles 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #236
This fellow had no trouble with using a unscoped rifle. oneshooter Apr 2013 #248
We can't ban all guns at once sandy78 Apr 2013 #185
You are going to ultimately "ban all guns"? You better pack a lunch. It's going to be a while. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #187
Once again...no one needs a gun sandy78 Apr 2013 #188
Actually, millions of Democrats own firearms, including many on this board. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #191
That is an poll from the year 2000 sandy78 Apr 2013 #193
No. It's not. As clearly indicated by Gallup, it is a poll covering 2000 THROUGH 2005. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #194
It's dead Jim... Marengo Apr 2013 #221
Some of the sniper rifles posted in this thread are actually owned by regular citizens newmember Apr 2013 #197
This thread was designed to elicit responses such as yours. Paladin Apr 2013 #198
Thank you newmember Apr 2013 #200
Yep, this OP is billh58 Apr 2013 #205
"(A)n intricate grasp of firearms terminology and functions is not necessary for formulating... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #208
Why don't you remember this: Paladin Apr 2013 #214
Is the "take down a plane" argument not valid? Marengo Apr 2013 #222
Like most sound bites... sarisataka Apr 2013 #229
See what I'm talking about, newmember? (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #245
A poster asked a question sarisataka Apr 2013 #246
In the context used, it is not valid. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #244
That's what I was thinking: The anti-material role of the rifle in question... Marengo Apr 2013 #252
So you are saying that a single shot oneshooter Apr 2013 #249
You say, "Some of these will take down a plane." See # 253 where the guy giving you advice AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #257
This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Apr 2013 #270
Assault Rifles have to go first mwrguy Apr 2013 #217
To clarify, your goal is to prohibit the civilian ownership of firearms? Marengo Apr 2013 #251
To clarify, that is most certainly not my goal. Paladin Apr 2013 #253
This isn't about you. He was responding to #217, "No guns is the goal long term," AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #255
Yeah, well: Sorry I fucked up this lovely thread of yours...... (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #256
This isn't about you. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #258
It's about YOU---and how bad this thread of yours makes you look. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #259
Are you a gun owner? Are you one of those who thinks that gun owners are "gun nuts?" Are you a AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #260
As I mentioned up-thread, I am a long-time gun owner. Paladin Apr 2013 #264
If I was to refer to someone who is a "gun nut," and I don't, I would use the term to refer to AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #265
I hope your gun safety practices are more developed than your insult skills. Paladin Apr 2013 #266
Back to the "NRA" bullshit? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #268
If that is not your goal, then why state "No guns is the goal long term"... Marengo Apr 2013 #271
Absolutely. mwrguy Apr 2013 #269
That's a hunting rifle rl6214 Apr 2013 #225
because you can actually use that for hunting? yurbud Apr 2013 #237
how about crossbows, regular bows, spears, and sharpened sticks? yurbud Apr 2013 #239
.... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #261
This type of rifle is identical to the typical hunting rifle Howzit May 2013 #272
Catch a clue. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #273
No, ban them all at the same time if they have scary adjectives. "Assault" rifles. "Sniper" rifles. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #274
Assault is a verb, not an adjective. Howzit May 2013 #275
No. It depends upon the context. In one context (i.e., "assault" weapon), it is an adjective. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #276
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