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justanidea

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30. Why shouldnt they be able to?

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 11:45 AM

Apr 2013

Theyre just extremely accurate bolt action rifles with scopes on them.

Big deal.

Are we now going to mandate gun manufacturers make their guns unable to hit the broad side of a barn?

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While there is a push to ban assault rifles, why not ban sniper rifles? [View all] AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 OP

Why not reinterpret the 2nd and have zero guns in the streets for private individuals graham4anything Apr 2013 #1

So your goal is to only have zero guns "in the streets"? Why does anyone need a sniper rifle? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #7

So a poster says that guns should be removed from the streets and your response is "Why would anyone EOTE Apr 2013 #19

Are you suggesting that questions should be banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #23

I'm suggesting that you have an agenda. EOTE Apr 2013 #26

Everyone has an agenda. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #40

Yours is quite transparent and it's not what you pretend it is. nt EOTE Apr 2013 #44

If you have a logical reason for banning sniper rifles, why not post it? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #49

You were the one who posted teh OP. If YOU have a logical reason for banning sniper rifles, why EOTE Apr 2013 #50

Thank you for the suggestion. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #55

It's a ignorant and deceptive question. EOTE Apr 2013 #57

IMO, people respond with fact-free insults when they are too ignorant to respond with logic. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #60

You haven't presented a single fact in this whole OP. EOTE Apr 2013 #65

he doesn't want debate backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #63

Wrong. And wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #68

I think you responded to the wrong person. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #85

I think that you're right. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #99

Either that or the poster hasn't read your posts to CokeMachine Apr 2013 #110

There is no clear distinction between a hunting rifle and a "sniper" rifle. Threedifferentones Apr 2013 #212

I will agree whole heartedly as soon as we ban all carbohydrates in our food supply galileoreloaded Apr 2013 #31

hahHahhahahahahahahhaha!!! darkangel218 Apr 2013 #128

Mayor Bloomberg, is that you? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2013 #247

This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Apr 2013 #39

You constantly conflate your belief that the second amendment will be reinterpreted onenote Apr 2013 #41

No thanks. nt darkangel218 Apr 2013 #127

You've said this on here a lot. I don't get it. Captain Stern Apr 2013 #174

The goal is law abiding citizens get OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #176

There's some indicatation that firearms are still owned by some of the rich and the Royals in the UK AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #180

What does that have to do with anything? OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #209

Strange. In post #176 which I was responding to, you specifically said "Britain took the guns away." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #218

I explained that you can have a shotgun OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #219

Excuse me, but I did not see any reference to shotguns in post #176 to which I was responding. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #223

You made references to hunting OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #231

Some people believe and spread the mistaken belief that guns are banned in Britain. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #235

You are desperately grasping at straws now OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #240

When someone says that Britain banned guns without qualification, they intend for others to AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #242

I'm only going to say this one more time OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #250

So you admit "except for shotguns." Why didn't you admit that in the first place? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #254

LOL OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #262

No one wants to give you "a coronary". I'm done. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #263

Lighten up, it was a joke OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #267

Wrong. supernaut Apr 2013 #201

He's wrong about that too? Who would have thought? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #204

And you wonder why gun owners scream about rl6214 Apr 2013 #226

Do you want the blunt honest answer? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #2

Is that an NRA talking point? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #9

No. (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #11

What's the difference between a sniper rifle and a hunting rifle? kudzu22 Apr 2013 #3

I hear that applies to other guns, too. But that's just me. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #15

Not much at all premium Apr 2013 #34

Could it be that isn't a sniper rifle, but is actually a hunting rifle? Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #4

Whatever the percentage, if they account for firearm deaths, shouldn't they be banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #10

Since probably every gun made accounts for some percentage of firearm deaths Bake Apr 2013 #52

Wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #56

Then why ban so-called "sniper" rifles? Bake Apr 2013 #58

Find those who want to ban "assault rifles" and you may find those who want to ban "sniper rifles." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #59

No doubt. Bake Apr 2013 #90

If you banned everything that could potentially OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #211

Ah Electric Monk Apr 2013 #92

Wait! That's NRAtalkingPoint™ No.20356. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #17

You're right, of course. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #18

I thought it was No.20355 sylvi Apr 2013 #243

Any good hunting rifle can be used for sniping FarCenter Apr 2013 #5

Low-capacity magazine and bolt-action chambering. Aristus Apr 2013 #6

When hunting game such as deer states limit the capacity of the magazine in ... spin Apr 2013 #29

the dc snipers? DeadEyeDyck Apr 2013 #105

Once again, look at the number of victims with sniper rifles. Aristus Apr 2013 #108

They used an AR-15, not a bolt action deer rifle/sniper rifle. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #133

That's not the rifle the DC snipers used. rl6214 Apr 2013 #227

good point focusing on mass shooters. Another counters the "criminals will always get guns" yurbud Apr 2013 #238

First things first. Robb Apr 2013 #8

So wouldn't it be easier to ban sniper rifles? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #12

It would probably be the most difficult ban possible to enact, actually. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #54

You're right, of course. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #72

Probably not. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #134

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #277

Does that take a clip or is it the kind you pull the handle back? newmember Apr 2013 #13

Good question. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #16

That is a normal bolt-action rifle with a high quality scope. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #135

Internal magazine premium Apr 2013 #51

And what kind of "hunting rifle" did you imagine? oneshooter Apr 2013 #78

Nice wood grain and maybe the person holding it wearing knickers newmember Apr 2013 #107

This plays to the NRA theme- slippery slope BS ksoze Apr 2013 #14

No, that's NRAtalkingPoint™ No.20357. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #20

If they have that many, it must be the 10188 repeat Progressive dog Apr 2013 #126

"...watching some of Wayne," Still sourcing old oaters? Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #230

Sourcing the gun nuts' leaders Progressive dog Apr 2013 #232

Oh, I thought it was Johnny-O. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #233

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #278

I googled sniper rifles , PEOPLE can really buy these newmember Apr 2013 #21

Maybe some people can. Have you seen the prices? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #24

Tell me it's a joke that any person can buy one of these. Please watch this , insane newmember Apr 2013 #27

A rifle is only as good as the person shooting it Nolimit Apr 2013 #36

Building your own is much cheaper.. sir pball Apr 2013 #64

Why shouldnt they be able to? justanidea Apr 2013 #30

Those are sniper rifles not hunting rifles newmember Apr 2013 #32

A rifle is a sniper rifle when it is used by a sniper justanidea Apr 2013 #35

There is no difference in equipment. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #66

Please watch the video I posted newmember Apr 2013 #77

It's just a marketing name. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #80

It's not just a marketing name newmember Apr 2013 #83

Both hunters and military want the same thing - accuracy. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #84

You have no clue at all what you are talking about. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #140

yes I do newmember Apr 2013 #151

Then you would not say 'these are not hunting rifles'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #162

And where do you think the features they refine for the military and police... krispos42 Apr 2013 #171

Sure any rifle can be used to hunt but when the military asks for a sniper rifle newmember Apr 2013 #172

They already can krispos42 Apr 2013 #173

More lethal than the average hunting rifle? rl6214 Apr 2013 #228

"If it's in 7.62mm NATO, I can go to a gun store ..." Maybe in your area. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #190

I actually went shooting today krispos42 Apr 2013 #199

Years ago, I used to press my own until I had time constraints and just bought off the shelf. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #202

Oooo, can of worms with that one. krispos42 Apr 2013 #210

What, specifically, would you ban about those rifles, without affecting "hunting" or "target" rifles sir pball Apr 2013 #116

That's not a hunting rifle newmember Apr 2013 #152

It's built and sold as such sir pball Apr 2013 #153

Who is the builder and markets that as a hunting rifle? newmember Apr 2013 #157

Dixie Precision Rifles sir pball Apr 2013 #160

Actually, it's an excellent rifle for most game in North America, with perhaps the exception of AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #139

Here's a photo from the web showing an animal in Pennsylvania that might be annoyed. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #147

'Hogzilla' was about 800lbs. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #163

And the difference in your mind is.... ? AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #138

Because that is a hunting rifle. bamacrat Apr 2013 #22

Virtually every deer hunter has a scoped rifle,,,, deaniac21 Apr 2013 #25

I don't. Travis_0004 Apr 2013 #106

Learn something new every day.... ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #124

Its a bit safer wercal Apr 2013 #130

Same thing in Illinois. No rifle hunting. DonP Apr 2013 #155

Unless the rules have changed, I think that hunting with muzzleloaders are legal provided that AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #158

Correct, I know several counties have a ML season. I was just thinking of centerfire rifles. DonP Apr 2013 #159

Because people use them for hunting? nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #28

if that is chambered in .300wsm backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #33

Does yours have much of a kick? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #37

it does backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #38

if you want kick backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #43

I thought so too, but it's too short to be mine sir pball Apr 2013 #62

Gun Enthusiast Flame Bait. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #42

Since it appears impossible to pass an assault weapons ban ... spin Apr 2013 #45

because he is baiting gun owners backwoodsbob Apr 2013 #46

Wrong. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #47

I'm asking a question. Others can post what they want. I'm not suggesting banning a bolt action AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #48

Especially one that is inherently flawed and dangerous. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #61

Would you only favor banning "sniper rifles" manufactured by a company sued by some of its customers AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #67

This one should have been banned long ago. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #73

Lawn darts are banned? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #75

Yes Savannahmann Apr 2013 #76

They are no longer manufactured. NutmegYankee Apr 2013 #82

I own a 700 and Bay Boy Apr 2013 #86

So the obvious question is this. Savannahmann Apr 2013 #89

I did take it to a gunsmith and had it modified... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #95

That trigger has not been made Chuuku Davis Apr 2013 #136

That's reasonable. ... spin Apr 2013 #96

Was a "sniper rifle" used at Newtown? Aurora? Columbine? Bake Apr 2013 #53

Pick the sniper rifle sarisataka Apr 2013 #69

Obviously "C," if you like a 1907 design and you're sniping prairie dogs. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #74

I do sarisataka Apr 2013 #91

. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #70

Because a hunting rifle is a sniper rifle. Rex Apr 2013 #71

I wonder if sneaking up on any of those feral hogs that we hear about would work? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Apr 2013 #79

Nice rifle, don't think i want to pack that around on a hunt pediatricmedic Apr 2013 #81

Good job!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #87

Thanks, friend. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #100

Back at ya!! CokeMachine Apr 2013 #111

It doesn't take much to impress you, does it? (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #118

You impress me -- hope that makes you feel special. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #121

Lol. The first rifle I ever bought myself was a Remington 700 Xithras Apr 2013 #88

The USMC M40 sarisataka Apr 2013 #93

You may have already seen this. But, if not, more interesting information can be found here: AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #102

That is an interesting link sarisataka Apr 2013 #113

S f AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #115

I can't believe how many DUers think you are baiting Gungeoneers. bluedigger Apr 2013 #94

Thanks. Your comments are appreciated. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #101

The Remington 700 has been around forever and is one of the most popular hunting rifles around 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #97

Handguns would make more sense madville Apr 2013 #98

Strange fascination -- training with sniper rifles. I doubt anyone is going to need to defend Hoyt Apr 2013 #104

Strange fascination -- Seeking to undermine the views of firearm-owning Democrats with insults AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #112

Target shooting for the sake of target shooting. hack89 Apr 2013 #114

I love long-range target shooting, but for reasons you probably literally couldn't understand. sir pball Apr 2013 #117

Sniper rifle induced Zen -- now that is sad. Hoyt Apr 2013 #119

Are bows or swords somehow less offensive to you? sir pball Apr 2013 #122

To keep you happy in your guns, we have to allow the "schmucks" to collect these type weapons. Hoyt Apr 2013 #123

Most of them are shooting at impossibly small circles through iron sites REP Apr 2013 #131

So what would you restrict to eliminate the "sniper"appeal? sir pball Apr 2013 #149

Truthfully, I'd like to see gun cultists start acting responsibly, and become Hoyt Apr 2013 #150

Define "spirit of the law abiding"? sir pball Apr 2013 #156

I think target shooting and playing golf share the same mentality NickB79 Apr 2013 #120

Let's be progressive on the 2A. ileus Apr 2013 #109

I agree. darkangel218 Apr 2013 #129

Anybody think these fucking things should be available... Bigmack Apr 2013 #125

$10K for the gun, $4.50 per round. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #164

"Have at it.."? WTF Bigmack Apr 2013 #165

You are probably over estimating your shooting abilities. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #182

My shooting abilities are not the question... Bigmack Apr 2013 #186

So you want to restrict any rifle in any caliber that is accurate past 1000 yards? hack89 Apr 2013 #189

Man...! This is amazing. Bigmack Apr 2013 #192

It just seems like a silly thing to fixate on hack89 Apr 2013 #195

Fixate..?What the hell is wrong with you..? Bigmack Apr 2013 #203

I am not defending the guns. I am questioning your logic. hack89 Apr 2013 #213

Are you being intentionally obtuse..? Bigmack Apr 2013 #215

But they are not killing people while all those other guns are. hack89 Apr 2013 #216

Any asshole who can legally own a rifle should be able to buy one Joseph Ledger Apr 2013 #168

Jesus Fucking Christ...! Bigmack Apr 2013 #177

Not your grandpappy's .30-.30... Bigmack Apr 2013 #178

There is nothing extraordinary about that rifle wercal Apr 2013 #132

Some think that it is rugged and exceptionally accurate. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #141

Really? wercal Apr 2013 #142

Yes, "Some think that it is rugged and exceptionally accurate." AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #148

The Remington 700 is about as well made a production gun as can be bought 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #220

Please define Chuuku Davis Apr 2013 #137

Like "assault" rifle, most folks know what it means. Hoyt Apr 2013 #145

I don't know the difference between the two Jake Izzy Apr 2013 #143

These days that is possible. Traditionally jmg257 Apr 2013 #146

Think it's hard to articulate "Assault Weapons"? It'll be mind-boggling to jmg257 Apr 2013 #144

Why do you give a fck if someone owns a rifle? geckosfeet Apr 2013 #154

Because, if they are mentally ill... Bigmack Apr 2013 #181

no. not really. i don't respond to that kind of fear mongering. geckosfeet Apr 2013 #206

A person like that OwnedByCats Apr 2013 #241

Why not just ban shooting living things with anything? flvegan Apr 2013 #161

Because that would be, well...really dumb. Joseph Ledger Apr 2013 #167

Never heard of a "sniper rifle." That's just a rifle, right? Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #166

You've never heard of a "sniper" rifle? Really? Is that an NRA talking point? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #169

Are you an NRA nut? Honeycombe8 Apr 2013 #183

You say, "I will remember the name....mcintosh." Do you scare many people? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #184

Many semi-automatic rifles are used as sniper rifles. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #224

Yes, but the rifle in the original posting is a manually operated bolt action rifle 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #234

Sniper with sniper rifles , hunter with shotgun newmember Apr 2013 #170

These are... sarisataka Apr 2013 #175

Clothes make the difference? Would you be in favor of banning certain types of clothes? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #179

I still haven't heard a reason for owning a sniper rifle newmember Apr 2013 #196

When you become Secretary of Needs, your opinion will matter. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #207

Two things that don't exist except in the mind, Superman and Sniper Rifles 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #236

This fellow had no trouble with using a unscoped rifle. oneshooter Apr 2013 #248

We can't ban all guns at once sandy78 Apr 2013 #185

You are going to ultimately "ban all guns"? You better pack a lunch. It's going to be a while. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #187

Once again...no one needs a gun sandy78 Apr 2013 #188

Actually, millions of Democrats own firearms, including many on this board. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #191

That is an poll from the year 2000 sandy78 Apr 2013 #193

No. It's not. As clearly indicated by Gallup, it is a poll covering 2000 THROUGH 2005. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #194

It's dead Jim... Marengo Apr 2013 #221

Some of the sniper rifles posted in this thread are actually owned by regular citizens newmember Apr 2013 #197

This thread was designed to elicit responses such as yours. Paladin Apr 2013 #198

Thank you newmember Apr 2013 #200

Yep, this OP is billh58 Apr 2013 #205

"(A)n intricate grasp of firearms terminology and functions is not necessary for formulating... friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #208

Why don't you remember this: Paladin Apr 2013 #214

Is the "take down a plane" argument not valid? Marengo Apr 2013 #222

Like most sound bites... sarisataka Apr 2013 #229

See what I'm talking about, newmember? (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #245

A poster asked a question sarisataka Apr 2013 #246

In the context used, it is not valid. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #244

That's what I was thinking: The anti-material role of the rifle in question... Marengo Apr 2013 #252

So you are saying that a single shot oneshooter Apr 2013 #249

You say, "Some of these will take down a plane." See # 253 where the guy giving you advice AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #257

This message was self-deleted by its author Union Scribe Apr 2013 #270

Assault Rifles have to go first mwrguy Apr 2013 #217

To clarify, your goal is to prohibit the civilian ownership of firearms? Marengo Apr 2013 #251

To clarify, that is most certainly not my goal. Paladin Apr 2013 #253

This isn't about you. He was responding to #217, "No guns is the goal long term," AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #255

Yeah, well: Sorry I fucked up this lovely thread of yours...... (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #256

This isn't about you. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #258

It's about YOU---and how bad this thread of yours makes you look. (nt) Paladin Apr 2013 #259

Are you a gun owner? Are you one of those who thinks that gun owners are "gun nuts?" Are you a AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #260

As I mentioned up-thread, I am a long-time gun owner. Paladin Apr 2013 #264

If I was to refer to someone who is a "gun nut," and I don't, I would use the term to refer to AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #265

I hope your gun safety practices are more developed than your insult skills. Paladin Apr 2013 #266

Back to the "NRA" bullshit? AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #268

If that is not your goal, then why state "No guns is the goal long term"... Marengo Apr 2013 #271

Absolutely. mwrguy Apr 2013 #269

That's a hunting rifle rl6214 Apr 2013 #225

because you can actually use that for hunting? yurbud Apr 2013 #237

how about crossbows, regular bows, spears, and sharpened sticks? yurbud Apr 2013 #239

.... DeSwiss Apr 2013 #261

This type of rifle is identical to the typical hunting rifle Howzit May 2013 #272

Catch a clue. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #273

No, ban them all at the same time if they have scary adjectives. "Assault" rifles. "Sniper" rifles. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #274

Assault is a verb, not an adjective. Howzit May 2013 #275

No. It depends upon the context. In one context (i.e., "assault" weapon), it is an adjective. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #276