Do you hold similar views about the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, shares? (Reply #17)

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17. Do you hold similar views about the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, shares?

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121 replies	Author	Time	Post
The second amendment is bullshit, and we all know it [View all]	Uzair	Apr 2013	OP
You might say	defacto7	Apr 2013	#1
Nice rant. Welcome to DU.	rrneck	Apr 2013	#2
We need socialized medicine	rightsideout	Apr 2013	#3
+1	SammyWinstonJack	Apr 2013	#40
Welcome to DU. The availability of guns and ammunition can be separated from the 2A.	Loudly	Apr 2013	#4
Do you hold similar views about the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, shares?	friendly_iconoclast	Apr 2013	#17
Only as they apply to zombies	ProgressiveProfessor	Apr 2013	#36
Clown College advance studies.	Loudly	Apr 2013	#87
Do they allow zombies?	ProgressiveProfessor	Apr 2013	#88
Aspiring clowns only. Pretty sure!	Loudly	Apr 2013	#90
Link..please	rsmith6621	Apr 2013	#5
This is a DISCUSSION forum, sparky.	Zoeisright	Apr 2013	#9
You didnt understand my question	rsmith6621	Apr 2013	#51
Hard to argue,	sarisataka	Apr 2013	#6
Because those things are IRRELEVANT	Uzair	Apr 2013	#52
"Stick to the topic."	pintobean	Apr 2013	#58
No dodge to the issue	sarisataka	Apr 2013	#65
why are gun humpers coming out of the woodwork?	Skittles	Apr 2013	#89
They are inviting their friends to help stack the deck	Electric Monk	Apr 2013	#96
they remind me of cockroaches, when you shine a light on them	Skittles	Apr 2013	#98
Which is WHY Meta should be returned.	Occulus	Apr 2013	#119
Thinking like that	pintobean	Apr 2013	#121
Because there are lots of authority humpers	sylvi	Apr 2013	#100
nope	Skittles	Apr 2013	#102
yep	sylvi	Apr 2013	#103
sorry, I don't keep arguing with bullshit replies	Skittles	Apr 2013	#104
Yet you felt compelled to answer this one	sylvi	Apr 2013	#105
My "bullshit reply" contained all the thought and consideration	sylvi	Apr 2013	#106
Knife deaths in the UK occur at the same rate as the U.S.	Walk away	Apr 2013	#86
The original intent was to have the country defended by	Warpy	Apr 2013	#7
We don't need to repeal the 2nd Am., we just need to interpret it properly.	SunSeeker	Apr 2013	#8
2nd Amend is as obsolete as the Muskets it was for	ErikJ	Apr 2013	#10
You have no Constitutional right to say that as you didn't post it with a quill pen...	friendly_iconoclast	Apr 2013	#20
Now friendly, he could have used a "press." A wooden one, even.	Eleanors38	Apr 2013	#56
At the time that the constitution was written	Mr.Pain	Apr 2013	#11
We actually got the idea of the seconded amendment from the Brits	newmember	Apr 2013	#12
I'm just afraid that a nation	Mr.Pain	Apr 2013	#16
It won't be guns that does the world in	newmember	Apr 2013	#23
Seems to work just fine in all the civilized countries. That is without the "right to bear arms"	ErikJ	Apr 2013	#15
2nd amendment is utterly irrelevant to today	MillennialDem	Apr 2013	#13
No, it's not utterly irrelevant, at least not everywhere	Recursion	Apr 2013	#31
but he doesn't need a 'right' to own a rifle on the ranch..	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#91
"Comparisons of the second amendment with the first, or with any of the others... are invalid."	AtheistCrusader	Apr 2013	#14
Cafeteria Constitutionalists don't want people thinking about where their logic may lead...	friendly_iconoclast	Apr 2013	#19
The famous SCOTUS case of Hocus vs. Pocus...	Pelican	Apr 2013	#50
It doesn't matter, does it?	LittleBlue	Apr 2013	#18
And that's the problem really... to most 2nd amendment might as well outright say guns	MillennialDem	Apr 2013	#22
As far as the .50, it's an arbitrary line	Recursion	Apr 2013	#32
Well, like I said the .50 cal is specifically designed as an anti-materiel round. A .458 for example	MillennialDem	Apr 2013	#46
Not really	Recursion	Apr 2013	#47
LOL. Nope it was designed as an anti tank and anti aircraft gun in WW1. Yes it is used sometimes to	MillennialDem	Apr 2013	#48
How many times must we "Amend" before we re-write?	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#21
How to you plan to keep the repukes and tea baggers out of the convention?	hack89	Apr 2013	#108
I can picture them charging in with guns claiming they're just for show,...and loaded...	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#109
I would be more worried about the anti-choice nuts	hack89	Apr 2013	#110
When you get down to it, the Right hates the Constitution....	Spitfire of ATJ	Apr 2013	#113
Which is why a Constitutional Convention is a dangerous idea. nt	hack89	Apr 2013	#114
The root of much evil. n/t	moondust	Apr 2013	#24
I can think of another one	newmember	Apr 2013	#25
k&r	Apophis	Apr 2013	#26
Any which way	Mr.Pain	Apr 2013	#27
K&R, Thank You!	smirkymonkey	Apr 2013	#28
Nobody Seems To Understand What The 2nd Amendment Means	DallasNE	Apr 2013	#29
It's not necessarily poorly-worded.	GoCubsGo	Apr 2013	#38
There are parts of the country where everybody having guns makes a lot of sense	Recursion	Apr 2013	#30
The most rabid Second Amendment absolutists don't live in remote areas	jmowreader	Apr 2013	#71
Most state constitutions guarantee gun rights	Shrek	Apr 2013	#33
K&R, and welcome!!! n/t	OneGrassRoot	Apr 2013	#34
"it is what must happen"	darkangel218	Apr 2013	#35
K&R and Welcome to DU.	99Forever	Apr 2013	#37
I try to not pick sides since I know people who own guns	newmember	Apr 2013	#42
It's also been completely twisted by modern gun fanatics into something that the founders	DanTex	Apr 2013	#39
SNORE.	Zax2me	Apr 2013	#44
LOL. I notice you didn't even bother trying to make an argument.	DanTex	Apr 2013	#45
How about we scrap the standing army, and keep the militia well-armed?	LAGC	Apr 2013	#73
Damn straight. K&R. nt	MOTRDemocrat	Apr 2013	#41
This is why we have the Bill of Rights - to protect against people like Bill Maher.	Zax2me	Apr 2013	#43
Good post	Blecht	Apr 2013	#49
Far more dangerous than the 2nd Amendment	Dreamer Tatum	Apr 2013	#53
Maher & you are not "we." nt	Eleanors38	Apr 2013	#54
I wish we did see it as obsolete, like the 3rd Amendment	treestar	Apr 2013	#55
You're gonna piss off the gun humpers here on DU	Hugabear	Apr 2013	#57
Notice that they can't respond	Uzair	Apr 2013	#59
I'll respond.	Daniel537	Apr 2013	#60
Care to actually make a counter argument?	Uzair	Apr 2013	#62
The Second Amendment does not confer the right to possess a firearm. That's the important fact.	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2013	#68
You also completely ignored the point.	DanTex	Apr 2013	#78
Welcome to DU. I see you've found the gun trolls.	DanTex	Apr 2013	#79
They have the Bill Of Rights	pintobean	Apr 2013	#61
Stop ignoring the subject	Uzair	Apr 2013	#63
A high rate of gun violence is a small price to pay	Hugabear	Apr 2013	#64
I did address the issue	pintobean	Apr 2013	#66
In other words, you won't even try and argue that the right-wing interpretation of 2A is	DanTex	Apr 2013	#77
No, the OP is arguing for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment	pintobean	Apr 2013	#80
Hmm, so talking about things that are unlikely to happen is irrelevant?	DanTex	Apr 2013	#82
Very telling. nt	laundry_queen	Apr 2013	#107
patently transparent dodge. \n	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#92
What did I dodge?	pintobean	Apr 2013	#93
I'll respond too	Ter	Apr 2013	#94
Better than pissing off abortion humpers I suppose	The Straight Story	Apr 2013	#67
What is that even supposed to mean? I've never heard of someone having as many abortions as possible	Electric Monk	Apr 2013	#75
Sigh...once again, people miss the obvious	The Straight Story	Apr 2013	#83
Try again after someone goes on an abortion spree, giving a bunch of people abortions against their	Electric Monk	Apr 2013	#84
Hear, Hear!	truebluegreen	Apr 2013	#69
The text of the second section of the Declaration of Independence reads, “We hold these truths to be	AlinPA	Apr 2013	#70
You can do that without a gun...	Pelican	Apr 2013	#111
I'm so happy you aren't in charge :)	galileoreloaded	Apr 2013	#72
Me too.	badtoworse	Apr 2013	#95
before...	Locrian	Apr 2013	#74
Lindsey Graham and Peter King: The Fifth Amendment is bullshit, and we all know it.	friendly_iconoclast	Apr 2013	#76
Dodge dodge dodge. Change subject.	Uzair	Apr 2013	#81
Deal with it. You, Graham, and King are all trying to undermine the Constitution.	friendly_iconoclast	Apr 2013	#115
I agree that the laws gun restrictionists want are not going to happen with the 2nd in place	aikoaiko	Apr 2013	#85
The Second Amendment isn't going anywhere. Get over it.	badtoworse	Apr 2013	#97
Who is "we", Kimosabe?	sylvi	Apr 2013	#99
The 2nd Amendment uproar is the shiny object...	bvar22	Apr 2013	#101
We are drowning in guns. Drain the swamp!	kenny blankenship	Apr 2013	#112
You want severe restrictions against against civilian gun ownership like Mexico and Jamaica?	friendly_iconoclast	Apr 2013	#116
Good luck with that.	Bake	Apr 2013	#117
You didn't read the OP. At all.	Uzair	Apr 2013	#118
Sure I did. 2nd Amendment is no longer necessary.	Bake	Apr 2013	#120

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