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Lars39

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27. Cut the military budget and fund both.

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Thu Apr 18, 2013, 01:42 PM

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"The President's budget, Among Other Things, Cuts the Home Heating Program by 14%." - Grayson. Why? [View all] grahamhgreen Apr 2013 OP

I'd like to hear the answer to that one too. MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #1

Uh. Maybe it's a fourth dimension thing. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #2

Because the supply of money isn't infinite? Recursion Apr 2013 #3

US citizens physical needs should come first. Lars39 Apr 2013 #6

Before *anything* else? So no education funding until everyone has a house and food? Recursion Apr 2013 #7

maybe before tax cuts to the top 5% hfojvt Apr 2013 #8

Cut the military budget and fund both. Lars39 Apr 2013 #27

End the useless war on drugs & tax consumers. Amonester Apr 2013 #54

Education is worthless if kids are hungry and cold at home. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #65

We can cut, oh, about a trillion fucking dollars out of the corporo-military budget Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #15

And I'd like to raise the minimum wage to $25/hour. Recursion Apr 2013 #17

Cutting even a tiny, tiny fraction of the military budget should cover heating Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #18

We've cut the military budget significantly over the past year. Recursion Apr 2013 #19

Have we cut it by 14%? If not what is the actual percentage the military budget was reduced? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #26

Roughly 20% as projected Recursion Apr 2013 #29

So 2.5% in this years budget? Great news if not just a meaningless projection Dragonfli Apr 2013 #42

And the funding is back next year in his new Budget. neverforget Apr 2013 #34

Ah, the Republican trick of comparing nominal rather than constant dollars! Recursion Apr 2013 #44

Then since the 14% cut in LIHEAP is represented the same way, it is also a trick. Or Dragonfli Apr 2013 #62

This is Obama's budget. neverforget Apr 2013 #70

The poster is accusing Obama of using a Republican trick? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #74

I guess he is....doesn't make much sense as it's Obama's budget straight from the Pentagon. neverforget Apr 2013 #75

That doesn't look like much of a cut, projections above must be meaningless Dragonfli Apr 2013 #55

The sequester did not cut the military budget aggiesal Apr 2013 #61

The poster above is calling a slower increase in spending a significant cut? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #63

Bullshit. That bloated budget could be slashed and slashed and slashed and still be WAY too much. Arugula Latte Apr 2013 #97

But it's doubled in the last ten years. All for BS wars and a security state that is obviously not grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #100

You can't achieve it, if you don't fight for it. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #99

Holy shit Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #21

I wish the world were as simple as you imagine it Recursion Apr 2013 #22

I repeat: Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #23

I have defended it. The fact that you can't process the finitude of resources is not my problem Recursion Apr 2013 #25

The fact that you can't process Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #30

I want to tax the rich more. Obama wants to tax the rich more. Recursion Apr 2013 #32

He is only saying the money is finite cprise Apr 2013 #50

Money is only finite when it comes to the poor. Flying Squirrel Apr 2013 #71

DING DING DING ^^^^^^^^ Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #76

OFFS Even Alan (catfood) Simpson thinks it's a bad idea progressoid Apr 2013 #38

So the essence of your argument is... bvar22 Apr 2013 #46

OK, bvar22, write a budget that will pass Recursion Apr 2013 #47

I thought he wrote this budget so it won't pass to save us from CCPI? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #64

Oh bullshit. THIS budget won't pass, and everyone knows it tkmorris Apr 2013 #66

+1 Rex Apr 2013 #60

I wish it were as difficult as you imagine it. Doing NOTHING would mean NO CUTS!!!!!! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #101

I never used to say that word either Oilwellian Apr 2013 #53

"Of course money isn't infinite (well, actually that's arguable)." It sure is - we print it! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #77

Yeah, I know, I know Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #78

'find things'?? Like human beings? So the poor are merely 'things' we 'want to spend money on'? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #31

Heating oil is a thing Recursion Apr 2013 #33

Yes, it's a 'thing' that saves lives. Like water, should we cut water too? What is your point sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #37

There is no argument that can rationalize his claim. Rex Apr 2013 #58

Yes, it is. We print it. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #80

The President is showing how serious he is about cutting the deficit. NCTraveler Apr 2013 #4

What if Obama previously INCREASED the program by more than 14%? Joshua Pistachio Apr 2013 #5

What if marshmallows fell from the sky and we burned them? Heating costs can jump 14% in months, grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #11

What if some of us hfojvt Apr 2013 #12

We've had this discussion already. And you're right. randome Apr 2013 #13

after a period when gas has fallen in price by half Kolesar Apr 2013 #14

We shouldn't be reducing anything but political realities don't mirror our own. randome Apr 2013 #24

What if people didn't die from lack of heat in the US? Wouldn't that be wonderful and we sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #35

He's planning on approving the Keystone XL Pipeline so ... dawg Apr 2013 #9

Perhaps he's got a plan to reduce the cost of home heating oil by 14%. hughee99 Apr 2013 #10

ROPE-A-DOPE ChangeUp106 Apr 2013 #16

He Proposes cuts each year, Congress has been rejecting his cuts and providing more than he asks Dragonfli Apr 2013 #20

The cost of heating oil has been all over the Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #36

Thank you for your comment and for all that you are doing to try to help the poor. I am upstate sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #41

Thank you, Sabrina, Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #43

I haven't been there but do remember the floods and the awful damage that was done. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #45

It's not just the outside media. Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #91

Because poor people don't have LOBBYISTS Marrah_G Apr 2013 #28

^^^^THIS^^^^ Rex Apr 2013 #59

Obama sees the future, you don't. The other graham has explained this... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #39

I can see the future too "it's a place about 70 miles east of here, where it's lighter" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #69

The curtain has been pulled back. Struggling with a nat while the military gorilla runs wild. L0oniX Apr 2013 #40

It makes him look like the sensible adult. bvar22 Apr 2013 #48

Global Warming is starting to pay dividends? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2013 #49

I've adopted Rep Grayson as my pretend Rep(beats Virginia Foxx) and donate what I can byeya Apr 2013 #51

home heating program budget cut proposal hollyrood Apr 2013 #52

Uh, that made perfect sense. Thanks for the 'you people' Flying Squirrel Apr 2013 #72

How does one "flagellate" oneself? I tried, but I lack the required flagella for propulsion. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #73

Relax, we have plenty of branches, old papers and garbage cans NickB79 Apr 2013 #56

Nope, ProSense Apr 2013 #57

"there is a case to be made that the funding should have remained at the 2009 -2011 levels." grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #84

Because Mr. Koch wants it that way. Octafish Apr 2013 #67

in obama`s world 14% is just a very small drop in the bucket madrchsod Apr 2013 #68

We've seen this outrage before treestar Apr 2013 #79

That doesn't even make sense. The explanation was that he was operating for the oligarchs! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #82

No, there was an explanation treestar Apr 2013 #85

Less is more! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #89

LIHEAP funding history (graph) Joshua Pistachio Apr 2013 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #83

How about you explain instead how cstanleytech Apr 2013 #86

He's proposing a cut. If he did nothing, it would be better than cutting. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #88

Except we then still come back to the question of cstanleytech Apr 2013 #92

Congress budgets, and the Progressive Caucus budget is the BEST, hands down. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #95

"The majority want the progressive budget" Tell that to congress cstanleytech Apr 2013 #96

The Congress knows this. The Presidents job is to make our representatives represent us. Including grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #98

Could you post the part in the constitution where it says cstanleytech Apr 2013 #103

From the graph above, none of the emergency funds were used last year. randome Apr 2013 #93

Chad needs a beemer datasuspect Apr 2013 #87

He wants to ensure that he cannot be held responsible for anything that is done Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #90

So hedge-fund moguls can buy MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #94

Maybe they're expecting warmer winters marshall Apr 2013 #102