I don't so much object, as find it interesting, that you come to DU and sound like Alex Jones. (Reply #77)

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Tue Apr 16, 2013, 08:49 PM

MH1 (16,988 posts)

77. I don't so much object, as find it interesting, that you come to DU and sound like Alex Jones.

Do tell, what past events do you think were really "false flag operations to take away our civil liberties", eh?

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131 replies	Author	Time	Post
I will not apologize for suspecting those who advocate violence might be guilty of violence [View all]	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	OP
No need to apologize;	elleng	Apr 2013	#1
You should apologize. And you should feel bad.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#2
What is reactionary about suspecting people who promote violence?	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#5
They invite your suspicion because you want them to be the ones who did this.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#10
Your vehemence is odd and curious.	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#18
My "vehemence" stems from my impatience with disingenuous politicking in the OP.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#20
They are not equally suspicious in every case	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#23
We bomb their cities and kill their people. They have at least enough motivation.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#31
I do consider Islamic terrorists suspects too. The style doesn't quite match, but who knows.	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#37
Because "suspicion" is a dangerous word to throw around.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#42
What, will it explode or something?	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#44
Words as weapons. Suspicion is violent rhetoric.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#47
Please elaborate. What bad consequence will happen as a results of somebody publicly saying	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#50
Islamist Militants routinely use hydrogen peroxide bombs. This was a pressure cooker bomb.	Maraya1969	Apr 2013	#108
I'm not actually accusing Islamist militants of this attack.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#109
Wait now. Let's apply what you just said to the people who kill abortion providers and the ones who	Maraya1969	Apr 2013	#111
So when we find right-wing extremists who said we should bomb the Boston Marathon...	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#112
Just like the abortion place bombers don't make their plans out in the open neither did the people	Maraya1969	Apr 2013	#115
Yes there is evidence that this is a home grown right winged anti-tax group or person.	Maraya1969	Apr 2013	#110
Which facts are you referring to?	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#113
It was done in Boston. On Patriot's Day - a day to celebrate The begining of the revolutionary war	Maraya1969	Apr 2013	#116
So Tea Partiers blew up a group of marathon spectators to protest taxes...	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#117
Way to throw in a strawman in order to ignore the facts.	Maraya1969	Apr 2013	#124
Why target the marathon?	onenote	Apr 2013	#121
Militant Islamic terror organizations immediately claim credit for their acts of terror.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2013	#56
It's been 24 hours. You know nothing.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#60
I'll do as I please, I don't seek or need your permission.	Ikonoklast	Apr 2013	#64
This message was self-deleted by its author	Crabby Appleton	Apr 2013	#81
Why don't YOU STHU?	WinkyDink	Apr 2013	#93
No?	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#94
I'm with you, seems pretty obvious nt	Tumbulu	Apr 2013	#118
They are not the	840high	Apr 2013	#57
No they are not the only ones, but they are advocating violence	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#61
What if it was merely because it was a large crowd?	freshwest	Apr 2013	#107
reactionary	kardonb	Apr 2013	#88
Who's a reactionary?	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#7
Anybody who thinks they know who committed this attack with zero evidence.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#12
"Thinks they know" and "suspects" are NOT the same thing, you know that, don't you?	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#14
What is the difference, if you don't mind?	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#15
You DON'T know the difference? OK, I'll explain it to you verrrry slowly.	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#22
No, the OP suspects that right-wingers did this.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#28
Well, YES! Exactly! He DOES believe he might be wrong! Isn't that what rational people do?	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#33
No, he should not have stated supicion. You've finally figured out my point.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#40
What are you afraid of?	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#46
I'm afraid we are becoming that which we hate the most.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#49
Spare me the meaningless platitudes. What are you afraid of?	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#54
I am afraid we are giving into to the very vitriol and self-assuredness that the right practices.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#58
What's with the we?	ohheckyeah	Apr 2013	#119
it's not exactly rocket science: we have rw terrorists in this country	noiretextatique	Apr 2013	#126
He's right; you're wrong. He owes no one an apology, least of all the RW fascists	kestrel91316	Apr 2013	#39
Your concern is noted. n/t	backscatter712	Apr 2013	#86
You would have us lulled	cartach	Apr 2013	#100
Is that the best you can do? Accuse me of supporting right-wing extremists?	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#101
I agree and I don't want to be politically correct	Horse with no Name	Apr 2013	#3
Are you talking about	Bully Taw	Apr 2013	#74
I don't suspect Charlton Heston. nt	pintobean	Apr 2013	#4
I suspect the people that he got to cheer him	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#9
I think it's foolish to speculate at this point.	pintobean	Apr 2013	#16
Depends on the facts of the case	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#30
The senator targeted	leftynyc	Apr 2013	#122
Which is one of the main reasons that non-violent resistance is ultimately the only way out	99th_Monkey	Apr 2013	#6
The NRA made it impossible to trace ingredients used in explosives.	Lint Head	Apr 2013	#8
Not really true	mwrguy	Apr 2013	#27
Add anyone who talks about "second amendment solutions" when they lose elections.	baldguy	Apr 2013	#11
So, regardless of who is found to be behind this...	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#13
"Round up the usual suspects..."	pinboy3niner	Apr 2013	#19
I love your sig.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#21
I never said I won't retract, I said I won't apologize.	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#32
Is it OK for people to suspect groups that have declared a Jihad against the Great Satan,	Nye Bevan	Apr 2013	#17
Oh no, that's straight out. nt	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#24
I guess you're afraid to say...	jessie04	Apr 2013	#26
In a number of situations I would suspect them	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#36
Did you know the 1936 Arab Revolt in Palestine began on April 15th?	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#63
But one group in particular associates themselves with the site of the Boston Tea Party	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#67
However, Al-Qaeda has issued threats against sporting events before.	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#73
I won't deny a small chance that it might be Al Qaeda	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#75
Perhaps it was Anarchists?	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#78
What if it was the Easter Bunny?	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#83
But no good reason to be suspicious of any Islamist groups that have threatened violence...	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#87
Notice DU's resident NRA defenders have swarmed your thread posting right-wing talking points, but	apocalypsehow	Apr 2013	#25
Am I a resident NRA defender? Or are you merely attempting to marginalize dissent?	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#29
You're not really fooling anyone, know it? n/t.	apocalypsehow	Apr 2013	#34
In what way am I trying to fool people?	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#41
That's funny, there.	apocalypsehow	Apr 2013	#45
It's called black/white thinking	derby378	Apr 2013	#35
You, either.	apocalypsehow	Apr 2013	#38
You're extremely transparent. This country has seen far more terrorist attacks by	kestrel91316	Apr 2013	#48
I am not blaming anyone for these attacks. The bottom line is we simply don't know.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#53
BULLSHIT. Violence is destructive. Talking about it is not.	kestrel91316	Apr 2013	#65
Words can absolutely be violent and destructive.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#68
Speech that encourages violence is as bad as violence. Our speculation about	kestrel91316	Apr 2013	#85
I'm not so sure your speech is so innocent.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#95
+1,000. Pretty much nails it. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Apr 2013	#59
I'd go with marginalize dissent. nt	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#51
I really don't care who or what you are. You are trying to divert attention from the extreme right.	firenewt	Apr 2013	#52
No apology necessary. Of course these whacko right wing extremist groups are prime suspects	quinnox	Apr 2013	#43
ANYONE could do a false flag & blame PO for a false flag. Or it could be an entirely 3rd thing trian	patrice	Apr 2013	#55
So well stated and exactly how I see it	Tumbulu	Apr 2013	#62
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Apr 2013	#66
Suspect as much as you please.	2ndAmForComputers	Apr 2013	#69
2 posts and you are here defending right wing extremists?	RetroLounge	Apr 2013	#70
+1. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Apr 2013	#72
I reject violent rhetoric whether it comes from the left or right or anywhere in between.	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#71
I don't so much object, as find it interesting, that you come to DU and sound like Alex Jones.	MH1	Apr 2013	#77
Well....	humbled_opinion	Apr 2013	#76
Speculation doesn't require anything, as long as it is acknowledged as speculation.	MH1	Apr 2013	#82
True... but	humbled_opinion	Apr 2013	#92
I'm guessing it is an essentially apolitical severely psychotic- James Holmes-Colorado Shooting	Douglas Carpenter	Apr 2013	#79
That's one possible scenario	RZM	Apr 2013	#80
Could be...	backscatter712	Apr 2013	#89
I am with you. Do not apologize.	dothemath	Apr 2013	#84
Yes exactly. Look at what happened post 9/11.	Initech	Apr 2013	#97
No one is saying they are not people to watch	DonCoquixote	Apr 2013	#90
I personally am not too worried that the investigators will look the other way because of my post	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#120
of course, this kind of violence is a by a product of the gun culture no matter where it originated	bowens43	Apr 2013	#91
It's not just gun culture though. It's our overall culture of violence.	Gravitycollapse	Apr 2013	#96
What a horrible comment.	Llewlladdwr	Apr 2013	#98
.	Hassin Bin Sober	Apr 2013	#106
What a load of crap	leftynyc	Apr 2013	#123
Much like...	bobclark86	Apr 2013	#99
Alex Jones? Please.	Bjorn Against	Apr 2013	#105
You pissed off the gun-bunnies! That means you touched a nerve!	backscatter712	Apr 2013	#102
I'm inclined to agree with you, Bjorn Against...	ReRe	Apr 2013	#103
You have every cause to be suspicious of the right wing	meanit	Apr 2013	#104
yes, you have cause to be suspicious	Bully Taw	Apr 2013	#131
Larger issue: Suspicion is useless and potentially harmful...	VOX	Apr 2013	#114
I lean toward some rw group/person doing this	deutsey	Apr 2013	#125
Kick	Nye Bevan	Apr 2013	#127
So...........about that theory.............. nt.	TimberValley	Apr 2013	#128
Ted Nuggent!	Macoy51	Apr 2013	#129
well...	Bully Taw	Apr 2013	#130

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