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pnwmom

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70. You are deliberately misstating what I said.

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 05:31 PM

Apr 2013

I said "in the process of transitioning." That does not equal: "has not undergone surgical reassignment."

A person who has a female driver's license and lives her life as a woman is in the process of transitioning. So is a person who takes female hormones or has had breast surgery. Surgical reassignment isn't a necessary part of transitioning.

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Transgender woman banned from Idaho grocery store [View all] The Straight Story Apr 2013 OP

Disgusting, have people lost all empathy One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #1

Yup it is extremely disgusting. Initech Apr 2013 #3

So what do we do about people like Paula Witherspoon, pnwmom Apr 2013 #2

Paula has had due process One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #4

Police say that women should be "careful" when they enter public restrooms. pnwmom Apr 2013 #6

Common sense One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #7

Right. And just how are we supposed to do that in a short visit? Hekate Apr 2013 #11

What? Tell an ordinary Trans person from a predator? One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #26

So, if a masculine looking woman is standing at the mirror, playing with her makeup, pnwmom Apr 2013 #63

I'm no mind reader. I can't tell what a person is going to do until he does it. pnwmom Apr 2013 #18

Yes, you are supposed to do that. If they are a person who looks like a man (whether said person is MillennialDem Apr 2013 #16

What if you don't observe them doing something until they've already done it? pnwmom Apr 2013 #19

I'm a trans woman. And um, you coul have a cis woman peer into your stall, or while you're in the MillennialDem Apr 2013 #21

I'm NOT saying a trans woman would be likely to assault anyone. pnwmom Apr 2013 #24

Like I said, most who go into a women's bathroom will have a doctor's note. Most will also use the MillennialDem Apr 2013 #27

But what if the man is actually a man -- not a transwoman? pnwmom Apr 2013 #40

If you see what you think is a male bodied person dressed as a woman in the woman's bathroom MillennialDem Apr 2013 #42

This is exactly the problem: pnwmom Apr 2013 #43

LOL hon, I'm long over that phase. And somehow I survived without a woman harassing or MillennialDem Apr 2013 #44

You're not a person anyone should worry about, of course. pnwmom Apr 2013 #49

And they are going to shave the girl's hair off. Drug her and dress her like a boy. alphafemale Apr 2013 #48

What the heck are you talking about? n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #50

I would prefer one unisex single bathroom at larger locations. Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #56

And the further problem is pnwmom Apr 2013 #62

Well, one surefire way... Chan790 Apr 2013 #46

People with female genitals have to go to the bathroom more often pnwmom Apr 2013 #51

You're saying men store urine in their urethras? CreekDog Jun 2013 #79

Under normal circs, a transgender woman wouldn't cause any problem Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #55

Women take their little boys and girls into the womens' restroom with them... Hekate Apr 2013 #13

sounds like you want to treat all transgendered as if they were this person CreekDog Apr 2013 #61

Please sign this petition, help fight the transphobic theocratic fascists: Zorra Apr 2013 #5

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #8

If she dresses as a woman, how would they know she was not? Hekate Apr 2013 #9

Most trans women do not stand to pee, at least not in public. Some do at home or if they're in the MillennialDem Apr 2013 #17

Oh, they keep statistics on that? Yeah, right. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #20

I'm a trans woman myself and we've had polls on such things on the forums for trans people I go on. MillennialDem Apr 2013 #23

I would have thought this transwoman would have used a stall, pnwmom Apr 2013 #25

I'm not sure which picture you are referring to? The first one? I think it's probably a joke picture MillennialDem Apr 2013 #28

A side note... Behind the Aegis Apr 2013 #33

There seems to be a stark difference in the way many lesbians and other feminists pnwmom Apr 2013 #35

There are butch trans women too. Many activist lesbians even have a problem with trans women who MillennialDem Apr 2013 #41

You really need to make up your mind enlightenment Apr 2013 #53

I don't know that any particular transwoman isn't transitioning. That is the point. pnwmom Apr 2013 #64

Deflecting doesn't change what you're doing. enlightenment Apr 2013 #69

You are deliberately misstating what I said. pnwmom Apr 2013 #70

Where did you say that? enlightenment Apr 2013 #71

+1000 Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #77

Many/most would rather Die than stand to pee One_Life_To_Give Apr 2013 #31

That's what I mean. What went wrong? Hekate Apr 2013 #32

I wish they would change building codes to require at least some unisex, single restrooms pnwmom Apr 2013 #36

I would love that. My observation is that they are usually handicap-accessible... Hekate Apr 2013 #37

I didn't see the article stating that the trans woman was standing to pee (or what were you referrin MillennialDem Apr 2013 #38

Right. More complicated than it seems. Hekate Apr 2013 #39

Esp. in a woman's bathroom Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #57

It's an impossible dilemna Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #10

No, this person is not a man wearing woman's clothes. This person is a trans WOMAN. And usually MillennialDem Apr 2013 #14

Thank you for being so open and sharing information with us. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #29

<3 MillennialDem Apr 2013 #30

Welcome to DU, MillennialDem. Hekate Apr 2013 #34

Allow me to be clear... Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #45

Response. MillennialDem Apr 2013 #52

Excellent reply, thanks for the information.... Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #72

No I can't, it is for trans women and men only. No cis people allowed. Like I said you're probably MillennialDem Apr 2013 #75

Understandable. One of these days I'll get skype I suppose. Demo_Chris Apr 2013 #76

I agree with you. There seem to be no good answers. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #22

I used the men's restroom at Safeway yesterday AnnieBW Apr 2013 #12

As a trans woman I have seen my share of disgusting bathrooms of both sexes. Usually the women's is MillennialDem Apr 2013 #15

Yeah, men's rooms are usually nasty... That's why I only use female restrooms.. octothorpe Apr 2013 #58

The potty police make me ill. Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #47

I use mens and womens bathrooms. undergroundpanther Apr 2013 #66

It's not just bigotry - it's fear Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #54

In this case it seems they banned her for no real good reason octothorpe Apr 2013 #59

i don't know Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #60

The person was probably viewed outside of the stall. n/t pnwmom Apr 2013 #65

Peeing standing up Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #67

Multiple visits over a couple days. In a grocery store? pnwmom Apr 2013 #68

Men get UTIs too Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #74

I think the women's room is the most obvious choice for a transgendered woman gollygee Apr 2013 #73

Disgusting actions on the stores part FreeState Apr 2013 #78