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Tom Rinaldo

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55. It would have been a close call for me and I would have noted that

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 05:25 PM

Apr 2013

Even the word inappropriate has shades of grey in it. I've been on 60 or so juries and I've voted to hide things about a third of the time. It is not always crystal clear what is inappropriate by community standards. Disagreeable isn't the same as inappropriate. Counter productive isn't the same as inappropriate. Unfair isn't the same as inappropriate. In poor taste isn't the same as inappropriate either since opinions on that vary wildly, as do opinions on whether being in poor taste is itself inappropriate. Even offensive doesn't nail it because not everyone gets offended by the same things. When I participate on a DU Jury I do not solely look at matters through my own set views because on a discussion/debate board that can be pretty stifling, I expect to have disagreements on all kinds of things with others here. When it comes to matters of free speech I tend to start out with "an assumption of innocence unless proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" In the long run I think that is the safest default setting to start from.

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Okay, I'm going on record. Jokes about the Boston bombing and certain political figures: Not funny. [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 OP

There are better things for people to show how clever they are by joking about. Much better n/t Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #1

That you even have to mention it is sad still_one Apr 2013 #2

Disgusting get the red out Apr 2013 #3

I agree.. thanks for going on record. Cha Apr 2013 #4

Humor is used as a way to cope with tragedy all the time lunatica Apr 2013 #5

If you are one of the people actually affected, that's one thing. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #8

You make a good point lunatica Apr 2013 #13

It wasn't even a joke. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #6

People cope with tragedy in their own way. bluedigger Apr 2013 #7

It's how such a "joke" reflects on DU as a whole. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #9

Because DU matters to the whole wide world? IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #11

Do you happen to recall when *one* poster at DU complained about the re-instated payroll taxes.... Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #12

So you're saying that if just one person at DU does something, Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #14

I'm just saying think before you post. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #16

but that poster isn't dumb, he's just completely inconsiderate and insensitive CreekDog Apr 2013 #19

But what if someone's posting humor is their way of dealing? Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #21

If they were somehow personally connected with the events, sure. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #23

C'mon, really? Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #26

It wasn't just that it was a joke. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #27

Yup. It compounded poor taste. The now hidden post was more garden variety "black humor" Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #28

that poster isn't "dealing" with anything, they are posting elsewhere on DU like this is nothing CreekDog Apr 2013 #34

Yeah... someone makes a joke about rape at a survivors meeting. Happens all the time, right? LanternWaste Apr 2013 #38

The best thing to do is tell that poster that we disagree with him/her lunatica Apr 2013 #17

I agree with you Duer 157099 Apr 2013 #20

Let Limbaugh give the sight free publicity to his hearts content. IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #18

And that mattered because.... Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #35

When does typical Rush Limbaugh BS drivel cease being typical Rush Limbaugh drivel? Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #37

Our detractors will find "ammo" where ever they seek it. bluedigger Apr 2013 #29

Often, that same coping mechanism further opens the wounds of others LanternWaste Apr 2013 #33

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #10

Agreed n/t MrBig Apr 2013 #15

I altered on the "joke" about Paul Ryan... brooklynite Apr 2013 #22

I wasn't on the jury but I would have upheld it, though I wish it wasn't posted Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #25

a right? you can't post Obama birther stuff, nor Chemtrail nonsense, nor right wing talking points, CreekDog Apr 2013 #32

"a right" as stipulated in DU rules. They aren't always as specific as the examples you mention Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #41

i'm not yelling or blaming you, but you said 1) that you would have upheld the post CreekDog Apr 2013 #49

It would have been a close call for me and I would have noted that Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #55

Having the right to post it implies that it's acceptable. Gormy Cuss Apr 2013 #40

I haven't told any jokes, although several occur to me. randome Apr 2013 #24

Depends on the joke.....I thought the Paul Ryan joke was great. cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #30

so after you see the guy with his feet blown off, you need to go to DU and joke about the marathon? CreekDog Apr 2013 #31

I was referring to the joke about Paul Ryan. Didn't see the one about the guy with his feet blown cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #36

That wasn't a well-crafted joke. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #42

That's much more offensive than the Paul Ryan joke....because the victims are part of the joke. cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #44

The Paul Ryan "joke" used the bombing as a prop. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #50

i'm reacting to your words --you suggested what we needed was a laugh b/c of this tragedy CreekDog Apr 2013 #45

Is it too much to observe a simple moral issue? alp227 Apr 2013 #43

Being sensitive about a tragedy and laughing at a stupid joke are two separate issues. cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #47

Ok, is it also too much to be a thinker alp227 Apr 2013 #58

That's the exact opposite of what I said.... cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #61

We should have a 'Boston Bombs Black Humor' thread. randome Apr 2013 #39

+1! backscatter712 Apr 2013 #46

And anyone who posts a joke in another post can have their post hidden. randome Apr 2013 #48

K&R*1000000 Jamastiene Apr 2013 #51

As soon as you say "not funny", you've lost the argument. Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2013 #52

Who is making jokes. iandhr Apr 2013 #53

? NealK Apr 2013 #60

The poster said people were making jokes who was doing that \? iandhr Apr 2013 #62

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #54

It was years before I saw a Princess Dianna joke MiniMe Apr 2013 #56

Yes, same thing for me... NealK Apr 2013 #59

Thanks, Tommy -- as you may know, I wholeheartedly agree... VOX Apr 2013 #57