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michigandem58

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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:17 PM Apr 2013

For those who believe the President supports chained CPI [View all]

Last edited Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:14 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/factsheet/chained-cpi-protections

The Budget contains the President’s compromise offer to Speaker Boehner from December. As part of that offer, the President was willing to accept Republican proposals to switch to the chained CPI. But, the Budget makes clear that the openness to chained CPI depends on two conditions. The President is open to switching to the chained CPI only if:

•The change is part of a balanced deficit reduction package that includes substantial revenue raised through tax reform.

•It is coupled with measures to protect the vulnerable and avoid increasing poverty and hardship.
The Budget contains two types of protections:

Benefit Enhancement for the Very Elderly and Others Who Rely on Social Security for Long Periods of Time

•The benefit enhancement would be equal to 5% of the average retiree benefit, or about $800 per year if the proposal were in effect today.

•It would phase in over 10 years, beginning at age 76, or (for other beneficiaries, such as those receiving Disability Insurance) in the 15th year of benefit receipt.

•The benefit enhancement would begin in 2020, phasing in over 10 years for those 76 or older (or in their 15th year of eligibility or beyond) in that year.

•Beneficiaries who continued to be on the program for an additional 10 years would be eligible for a second benefit enhancement, starting at age 95 in the case of a retired beneficiary.
Because of the benefit enhancement for the very elderly, the Budget proposal would not increase the poverty rate for Social Security beneficiaries, and would slightly reduce poverty among the very elderly according to SSA estimates.

Policy is Not Applied to Means-Tested Benefit Programs

Means-tested benefit programs are not included in the switch to the chained CPI. Programs that would not be included are:

•The Supplemental Security Income (SSI) program, meaning that the lowest-income seniors and people with disabilities generally would not be affected.
•Means-tested veterans’ pensions as well as the Montgomery GI Bill-active duty or the post-9/11 GI Bill benefits.
•The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and child nutrition programs.
•Pell Grants.
•Poverty guidelines.
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Qualified support is support cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #1
Agreed. It should not be on the table. If they want to preserve SS, raise the cap. still_one Apr 2013 #2
Agree 100% AndyA Apr 2013 #7
Raise the Cap! Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2013 #26
That's pretty obtuse michigandem58 Apr 2013 #3
not in this budget. fucking no way cali Apr 2013 #5
Do you know what obtuse means? Obama proposed this, he supports his proposal. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #12
You asked a question and gave an example, all in your subject line michigandem58 Apr 2013 #25
You got it. I would never support a budget or a president who would JDPriestly Apr 2013 #32
Supports it or he's a liar bowens43 Apr 2013 #4
Those do seem to be the choices, yes. n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #14
Agreed. Nt newfie11 Apr 2013 #22
Facts are facts Old Codger Apr 2013 #6
Where he said he wouldn't cut SS Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #11
Silly person ...a cut is something you put a band aid on. L0oniX Apr 2013 #21
It's a "benefit enhancement" that saves $130 billion pscot Apr 2013 #34
Call it anything Old Codger Apr 2013 #35
He specifically promised not to cut using a change in cpi. your bullshit is just that Dragonfli Apr 2013 #36
Don't you kind of find it funny watching about 5 people Rex Apr 2013 #50
It is like arguing with a kindergarten class that thinks Pete the custodian is Pan and can fly Dragonfli Apr 2013 #54
The Bush White House called lowering polution standards their "Blue Skies Initiative". Marr Apr 2013 #48
Cutting through very obtuse verbage Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #8
The rich will all still be rich. Most SS recipients will go sick and hungry. That is not "balanced." forestpath Apr 2013 #9
Wow, an increase starting at age 76, phased in over 10 years. Av life expectancy 78.2 Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #10
The average life expectancy of a 76-year-old is not 2.2 years DavidDvorkin Apr 2013 #16
Yep. Learn how life expectancy works first before you comment. HERVEPA Apr 2013 #51
More weasel words. 99Forever Apr 2013 #13
Slip sliding away. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #15
. Marrah_G Apr 2013 #17
That is heading in the wrong direction, most don't live that long, typically the wealthy usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #18
It looks like your creating an Excuse. Would you like help? Marr Apr 2013 #19
NO REAL DEMOCRAT WOULD EVER TOUCH SS! L0oniX Apr 2013 #20
Absurd thread title. LWolf Apr 2013 #23
Apparently you think we are idiots. nt. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #24
God forbid we should have a balanced view here treestar Apr 2013 #27
Thanks, michigan, for trying to bring rationality to DU on this matter. elleng Apr 2013 #28
Your quite welcome michigandem58 Apr 2013 #29
Right, and I'm not following this thread for that reason; elleng Apr 2013 #31
Actually you've been refuted in this thread and debunked Rex Apr 2013 #49
He proposed it DJ13 Apr 2013 #30
MichiganDem: Here is the link from Whitehouse.gov LeftInTX Apr 2013 #33
Thanks! michigandem58 Apr 2013 #38
This isn't going to happen. Blanks Apr 2013 #37
"If grandma needs food, then drag your lazy ass over to her house and give her some food." cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #39
We need to look out for one another. Blanks Apr 2013 #43
Not everyone of we seniors Bohunk68 Apr 2013 #46
I assumed everyone here is a democrat... Blanks Apr 2013 #47
I imagine you are good at faking suprise bobduca Apr 2013 #52
I see. Blanks Apr 2013 #56
That's exactly the message the elite use in pushing these cuts, and exactly where we were before FDR usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #40
No matter how much money we give to the hungry... Blanks Apr 2013 #41
Works for everyone else, why wouldn't money help the hungry? usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #42
There are certain things that we should be entitled to. Blanks Apr 2013 #44
like social security usGovOwesUs3Trillion Apr 2013 #45
If people are facing starvation... Blanks Apr 2013 #57
"No matter how much money we give to the hungry..." bobduca Apr 2013 #53
I'm afraid this is lost on the good folks bashing the President on this site madokie Apr 2013 #55
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