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Katashi_itto

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25. I actually think Bond reflects that current culture's idea of what a man should be.

Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:50 AM

Apr 2013

Sort of a barometer. I love Bond movies, and you can see an evolution in cultural and social mores through him.

The current Bond is rather startling in that regard.

Personally, IMO I actually like him the best, he's a thoughtful Bond, when you get past the bravado, especially in this last movie.

The scene where he weeps over the dying M is striking.

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I used to really like James Bond movies. [View all] MarianJack Apr 2013 OP

:) shenmue Apr 2013 #1

That was in "on Her Majesty's Aecret Service". MarianJack Apr 2013 #8

I think that attitude also had a very bad effect on many women too, something between the saintly patrice Apr 2013 #2

We used to call it... MarianJack Apr 2013 #9

I should say: I was married twice to a fine man each time. It DOES work when you're honest patrice Apr 2013 #15

I agree! MarianJack Apr 2013 #16

That's right & keeping that choice evergreen avoids the martyr or goldigger syndromes. patrice Apr 2013 #17

Right! MarianJack Apr 2013 #22

Bond was different and distinctive in the early days, now just run of the mill shoot em up stuff nt msongs Apr 2013 #3

Shoot em up... MarianJack Apr 2013 #10

Umm there were no "fancy" gadgets in the latest one. Just the opposite. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #33

I haven't seen any of the Craig films yet, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #41

The Craig Movies are radically different. They are a masterpiece of a reboot to the series Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #67

I live in Issa's district. If I ever get to perform this song at one of his fundraisers, I'll do it! dogknob Apr 2013 #4

Old "grand theft auto Issa"? MarianJack Apr 2013 #14

I regret that I only have one rec to give this. wryter2000 Apr 2013 #5

An "R" from a woman for this thread just makes my day. MarianJack Apr 2013 #11

Ever take a second look at Happy Days? napkinz Apr 2013 #6

I also remember the Fonz... MarianJack Apr 2013 #13

Still some women chase the cool bad boy/man exboyfil Apr 2013 #28

The Fonz did have a lot of redeeming qualities napkinz Apr 2013 #69

The books are worse than the movies Johonny Apr 2013 #7

I've only read some f the John Gardiner books. MarianJack Apr 2013 #12

Not just James Bond. I also find Austin Power's attitude towards women to be unacceptable (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #18

I never watched Austin Powers,... MarianJack Apr 2013 #20

What exactly do those movies have to do with teabaggers? Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #52

Teabaggers talk without knowing about their topic. MarianJack Apr 2013 #55

Gotcha Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #56

Thanx! MarianJack Apr 2013 #59

I adore the early Connery/Craig films DerekG Apr 2013 #19

Good point, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #21

Watch Casino Royale...now. DerekG Apr 2013 #23

I'd like to see that one! MarianJack Apr 2013 #24

I actually think Bond reflects that current culture's idea of what a man should be. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #25

Thanks for the videos. MarianJack Apr 2013 #35

Personally I think she was the Best of the M's she lends a fantastic Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #74

Thanks again. MarianJack Apr 2013 #80

The Bond movies were a product and a mirror of their time lunatica Apr 2013 #26

I hope that Rupert Everett's dream comes true. MarianJack Apr 2013 #36

He has a very classy demeanor and would bring a lot to the sexy spy genre lunatica Apr 2013 #47

He would certainly do a very good... MarianJack Apr 2013 #50

James Bond is supposed to be irresistible. The women were depicted as willing but it did Lint Head Apr 2013 #27

M has been a woman since Pierce Brosnan's films. MarianJack Apr 2013 #37

Which is probably why I think Daniel Craig is the sexiest one of all of them. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #70

Sean Connery was a gigantic misogynist Arkana Apr 2013 #29

Would you say the character is sexist? Misogynist? nt redqueen Apr 2013 #30

The character as written from the novels possibly. From the movies perhaps the earlier Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #31

Connery's Bond was. Arkana Apr 2013 #66

Yeah I saw that and went "Holy Shit" The Villian...REALLY REALLY likes Bond.. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #68

I don't think I suggested watering him down,... MarianJack Apr 2013 #38

I always thought Bond movies were sexist and stupid. Whisp Apr 2013 #32

I always liked them, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #39

You would think that Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #73

well, that's the thing, it's escapism for men Whisp Apr 2013 #75

God you shovel it. Demographics Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #78

Still love Bond movies. zappaman Apr 2013 #34

I haven't seen any of the Daniel Craig movies yet, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #40

It's good. zappaman Apr 2013 #42

Thanx! MarianJack Apr 2013 #43

For good reason pokerfan Apr 2013 #44

I didn't know that! zappaman Apr 2013 #48

As do I Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #54

James Bond is a sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot. Rex Apr 2013 #45

I see all of those "qualities" in the character except for... MarianJack Apr 2013 #51

I had to throw it in since it is part of the quote. Rex Apr 2013 #53

Please... MarianJack Apr 2013 #58

9to5 and Heavy Metal Rex Apr 2013 #60

Thanx! MarianJack Apr 2013 #63

Very welcome! Rex Apr 2013 #65

I always recognized the sexism of Bond movies, even as a little girl Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #46

As a young boy, I looked at them sort of like... MarianJack Apr 2013 #49

I dont see any one getting raped jambo101 Apr 2013 #57

In some of the early Connery films... MarianJack Apr 2013 #61

He rapes Pussy Galore in Goldfinger to "fix" her from her lesbian ways Johonny Apr 2013 #71

Where was it written that Pussy Galore was a lesbian? Arkana Apr 2013 #72

read the books Johonny Apr 2013 #77

It was also pretty clear in the movie. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #81

Reflections of times. earthside Apr 2013 #62

I understand that they reflect the times, and... MarianJack Apr 2013 #64

Saw my first Bond flick when I was 14. Loved it. I also like the latest trilogy. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #76

I still haven't seen any of the Craig films. MarianJack Apr 2013 #79