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DerekG

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19. I adore the early Connery/Craig films

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:55 PM

Apr 2013

They're fairly dark, escapist confections, centering around an antihero who battles monsters. Bond's contempt for women is part and parcel of his character, and should not be watered down.

Take away the connotations to "The bitch is dead," and you've stripped the gentleman killer of his intrigue.

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I used to really like James Bond movies. [View all] MarianJack Apr 2013 OP

:) shenmue Apr 2013 #1

That was in "on Her Majesty's Aecret Service". MarianJack Apr 2013 #8

I think that attitude also had a very bad effect on many women too, something between the saintly patrice Apr 2013 #2

We used to call it... MarianJack Apr 2013 #9

I should say: I was married twice to a fine man each time. It DOES work when you're honest patrice Apr 2013 #15

I agree! MarianJack Apr 2013 #16

That's right & keeping that choice evergreen avoids the martyr or goldigger syndromes. patrice Apr 2013 #17

Right! MarianJack Apr 2013 #22

Bond was different and distinctive in the early days, now just run of the mill shoot em up stuff nt msongs Apr 2013 #3

Shoot em up... MarianJack Apr 2013 #10

Umm there were no "fancy" gadgets in the latest one. Just the opposite. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #33

I haven't seen any of the Craig films yet, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #41

The Craig Movies are radically different. They are a masterpiece of a reboot to the series Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #67

I live in Issa's district. If I ever get to perform this song at one of his fundraisers, I'll do it! dogknob Apr 2013 #4

Old "grand theft auto Issa"? MarianJack Apr 2013 #14

I regret that I only have one rec to give this. wryter2000 Apr 2013 #5

An "R" from a woman for this thread just makes my day. MarianJack Apr 2013 #11

Ever take a second look at Happy Days? napkinz Apr 2013 #6

I also remember the Fonz... MarianJack Apr 2013 #13

Still some women chase the cool bad boy/man exboyfil Apr 2013 #28

The Fonz did have a lot of redeeming qualities napkinz Apr 2013 #69

The books are worse than the movies Johonny Apr 2013 #7

I've only read some f the John Gardiner books. MarianJack Apr 2013 #12

Not just James Bond. I also find Austin Power's attitude towards women to be unacceptable (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2013 #18

I never watched Austin Powers,... MarianJack Apr 2013 #20

What exactly do those movies have to do with teabaggers? Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #52

Teabaggers talk without knowing about their topic. MarianJack Apr 2013 #55

Gotcha Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #56

Thanx! MarianJack Apr 2013 #59

I adore the early Connery/Craig films DerekG Apr 2013 #19

Good point, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #21

Watch Casino Royale...now. DerekG Apr 2013 #23

I'd like to see that one! MarianJack Apr 2013 #24

I actually think Bond reflects that current culture's idea of what a man should be. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #25

Thanks for the videos. MarianJack Apr 2013 #35

Personally I think she was the Best of the M's she lends a fantastic Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #74

Thanks again. MarianJack Apr 2013 #80

The Bond movies were a product and a mirror of their time lunatica Apr 2013 #26

I hope that Rupert Everett's dream comes true. MarianJack Apr 2013 #36

He has a very classy demeanor and would bring a lot to the sexy spy genre lunatica Apr 2013 #47

He would certainly do a very good... MarianJack Apr 2013 #50

James Bond is supposed to be irresistible. The women were depicted as willing but it did Lint Head Apr 2013 #27

M has been a woman since Pierce Brosnan's films. MarianJack Apr 2013 #37

Which is probably why I think Daniel Craig is the sexiest one of all of them. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #70

Sean Connery was a gigantic misogynist Arkana Apr 2013 #29

Would you say the character is sexist? Misogynist? nt redqueen Apr 2013 #30

The character as written from the novels possibly. From the movies perhaps the earlier Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #31

Connery's Bond was. Arkana Apr 2013 #66

Yeah I saw that and went "Holy Shit" The Villian...REALLY REALLY likes Bond.. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #68

I don't think I suggested watering him down,... MarianJack Apr 2013 #38

I always thought Bond movies were sexist and stupid. Whisp Apr 2013 #32

I always liked them, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #39

You would think that Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #73

well, that's the thing, it's escapism for men Whisp Apr 2013 #75

God you shovel it. Demographics Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #78

Still love Bond movies. zappaman Apr 2013 #34

I haven't seen any of the Daniel Craig movies yet, but... MarianJack Apr 2013 #40

It's good. zappaman Apr 2013 #42

Thanx! MarianJack Apr 2013 #43

For good reason pokerfan Apr 2013 #44

I didn't know that! zappaman Apr 2013 #48

As do I Floyd_Gondolli Apr 2013 #54

James Bond is a sexist, egotistical, lying, hypocritical bigot. Rex Apr 2013 #45

I see all of those "qualities" in the character except for... MarianJack Apr 2013 #51

I had to throw it in since it is part of the quote. Rex Apr 2013 #53

Please... MarianJack Apr 2013 #58

9to5 and Heavy Metal Rex Apr 2013 #60

Thanx! MarianJack Apr 2013 #63

Very welcome! Rex Apr 2013 #65

I always recognized the sexism of Bond movies, even as a little girl Liberal_in_LA Apr 2013 #46

As a young boy, I looked at them sort of like... MarianJack Apr 2013 #49

I dont see any one getting raped jambo101 Apr 2013 #57

In some of the early Connery films... MarianJack Apr 2013 #61

He rapes Pussy Galore in Goldfinger to "fix" her from her lesbian ways Johonny Apr 2013 #71

Where was it written that Pussy Galore was a lesbian? Arkana Apr 2013 #72

read the books Johonny Apr 2013 #77

It was also pretty clear in the movie. ManiacJoe Apr 2013 #81

Reflections of times. earthside Apr 2013 #62

I understand that they reflect the times, and... MarianJack Apr 2013 #64

Saw my first Bond flick when I was 14. Loved it. I also like the latest trilogy. Buzz Clik Apr 2013 #76

I still haven't seen any of the Craig films. MarianJack Apr 2013 #79