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mbperrin

(7,672 posts)
12. Google is your friend. Here's the take from Boston College.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:09 PM
Apr 2013
http://www.policyarchive.org/handle/10207/96498

Their analysis is that it cannot be viewed as anything other than a cut in benefits, and especially for the oldest and the poorest.

All a chained CPI does is say that people will buy cheaper and cheaper stuff as they get poorer and poorer, so instead of giving them money to buy the old stuff, we'll just give them enough to buy the cheaper and cheaper stuff.

Two problems: poorest don't have the ability to shift as readily: no transportation out of their immediate area to find these bargains, and no Internet access to order it online. Same for the oldest of the old - lack of mobility due to age, and again, lack of Internet access.

So no, the poor will not be lifted above the poverty line - the line will be moved so that they no longer are "officially" poor. This is what happened when we changed the definition of unemployed and cut the unemployment rate in half - magically. Trouble is, "discouraged" workers still don't have a job or money (their benefits have run out).

It's like changing the F on your report card to a B - hey, ma! Look! Happy for a moment, but the transcript still has the F, and you ain't going to college. How happy will ma be then?


I'm 61, and I wish people would just be honest about people my age and older - they hate us and would like to take us the gas chamber, but that conjures up negative images, so they will simply starve us in our houses and prevent us from getting decent medical care - same result.


Chained CPI is smoke and mirrors. Smoke gets in your eyes. When it gets in your lungs, it kills you.

Oh, and YES, I do hold a degree in economics. Thanks for asking!
And most DUers gave him a pass when he LOWERED taxes 3 months ago. robinlynne Apr 2013 #1
Sure is, you nailed it. We're all seen as pawns to the elite. just1voice Apr 2013 #2
Nobel Peace Prize, Predator Drones, Chained CPI Demeter Apr 2013 #3
Actually Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #4
They get a better COLA now. Others losing one does not mean the poorest will be 'lifted'. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #5
Google is your friend Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #9
Try doing a bit more research HarmonyRockets Apr 2013 #27
Google is your friend. Here's the take from Boston College. mbperrin Apr 2013 #12
Okay Life Long Dem Apr 2013 #13
Cat food is $8 a pound. (A dollar for a 2 ounce can) mbperrin Apr 2013 #14
Oh, and of course, there is NO "average" person. mbperrin Apr 2013 #15
... Skittles Apr 2013 #17
Thank you for this post. nt woo me with science Apr 2013 #24
I might have trusted him if there wasn't that little problem of Cleita Apr 2013 #6
Meanwhile the two people that actually wrote a major portion of the ACA truedelphi Apr 2013 #28
I could not agree with you more! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #7
I lost faith a long time ago. Obama has shown repeatedly he can't be trusted. forestpath Apr 2013 #8
if he has a moral compass it is broken carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #10
they wouldn't be "centrists" if they could face up to the problem of whether the chaining is good MisterP Apr 2013 #11
K&R woo me with science Apr 2013 #16
K&R. Thank you. myrna minx Apr 2013 #18
kick woo me with science Apr 2013 #19
I'm sorry to say that you are right. Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #20
I'm not so sure Mr Obama.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #21
The truth of corporate morality. woo me with science Apr 2013 #23
But if too many of us wake up - watch the PTB pull another truedelphi Apr 2013 #29
du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #22
Kick and Rec! Fuddnik Apr 2013 #25
You just made me cry, Pale. Simple truths. Thank you. nt Mnemosyne Apr 2013 #26
"Because the poor and the elderly are the ones being used as the pawns. It's despicable." Triana Apr 2013 #30
Mr. President Unchain That CPI Blue Owl Apr 2013 #31
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