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hfojvt

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14. well I decided to look at the last decade
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 02:47 PM
Apr 2013

here are the colas http://www.ssa.gov/cola/automatic-cola.htm

2001 - 3.5%
2002 - 2.6
2003 - 1.4
2004 - 2.1
2005 - 2.7
2006 - 4.1
2007 - 3.3
2008 - 2.3
2009 - 5.8
2010 - 0
2011 - 0
2012 - 3.6

so $1.000 a month has grown to $1,361.14 a month by 2012.

Now some might think that is a huge growth, and think that if it was reduced to $1,300 that that would not really be a "cut". Because, after all $1,300 is still more than $1,000.

But that is not what really happens. Consider, for example, the price of gas. In 2000, gas was selling for, let's say $1.25 a gallon. (I think it was less, but it was increasing from the low of 89.9 in late 1999 and I remember it increased just in time to hurt Gore in the election even though it was probably higher than $1.25 when Clinton was elected in 1996. I remember that too, because it was right when I bought my 2nd car in 1996 and gas was about $1.30.

Anyway, that $1,000 in 2000 would buy you 800 gallons of gasoline. By 2012, $1,000 would only buy about 300 gallons of gasoline.

The same is true, although I cannot remember prices, of things like bread and milk and any number of other items. Some items held steady. For example, I remember buying a Trek bicycle in 1990 for about $300 and then a new one in 2002 for $300 and then another one in 2004 for $275 (because they had a sales tax holiday)

So $1,300 in 2012 would only be equivalent, in general, to $975.03 in 2000. http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1300&year1=2012&year2=2000 If the COLA does not keep up with inflation, then you are going backwards even as the nominal value of the check goes up, the real (non inflation) value is going down.

However, it does appear that past COLAs for Social security have been beating the rate of inflation. At least for the period from 2000-2012. The $1,000 growing to $1,361.40 beats the inflation rate of $1,333.3. Or, put another way, the real value of $1,361.40 in 2000 dollars is $1,021.11.

But the COLA has probably not been keeping up with the increasing costs of food, gasoline and medicine.

yep dembotoz Apr 2013 #1
Yes , the people must not give up riverbendviewgal Apr 2013 #2
K&R nt redqueen Apr 2013 #3
DURec! bvar22 Apr 2013 #4
I think the President is doing this because it's the only bait left that might get Rs to the table. winter is coming Apr 2013 #5
We've known for-fucking-ever that they don't play nice. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #11
The Serious People seem to be conveniently ignorant. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #20
It pays too well not to be. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #23
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #6
but we can't tell people to STFU on DU --- against the rules, isn't it? Nt antigop Apr 2013 #7
I need someone to explain timdog44 Apr 2013 #8
Here's an explanation with video Capt.Rocky300 Apr 2013 #9
Thanks for video. timdog44 Apr 2013 #12
The point is this. zeemike Apr 2013 #10
And thank you for the response and example timdog44 Apr 2013 #13
well I decided to look at the last decade hfojvt Apr 2013 #14
So, from you say, timdog44 Apr 2013 #15
actually, to my astonished amusement, it does hfojvt Apr 2013 #19
I guess I had to know timdog44 Apr 2013 #21
they want to cut approx $660/yr if you're 65. at 85 you lose $1,147 a year (it's huge) nashville_brook Apr 2013 #17
Well I have been educated, and thanks to all. timdog44 Apr 2013 #18
Short answer: Obama believes in it duffyduff Apr 2013 #22
It breaks my heart timdog44 Apr 2013 #24
I know how you feel...The thing to remember is this: almost anyone can put a "d" after their name whathehell Apr 2013 #26
I am from just south of Joliet. timdog44 Apr 2013 #27
Hey timdog44 whathehell Apr 2013 #28
big f'n k 'n r nashville_brook Apr 2013 #16
K&R forestpath Apr 2013 #25
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