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rdharma

(6,057 posts)
81. Those who can be counted on for effective security......
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 12:33 AM
Apr 2013

..... aren't going to do it for free. And those who will do it for free........ you don't want to be armed in a school.

Absolutely groundbreaking work sharp_stick Apr 2013 #1
Actually, it'd be easier to just bring a gun than overpower a school employee ZOB Apr 2013 #2
It would make it easier to overpower the staff liberal N proud Apr 2013 #4
Actually, no. ZOB Apr 2013 #5
If you have a gun, the shooter comes in the building, knowing you have that gun... liberal N proud Apr 2013 #6
IF the rampager knows which staffer is carrying. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #7
I agree that the armed staff member might be a target. ZOB Apr 2013 #8
The surest, quickest thing schools could do would be to get rid of all the damn glass. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #45
We're capable of designing more secure schools but, yes, it's costly. ZOB Apr 2013 #49
If/when, these are actually the easy areas. Recess, outdoor play, not so much. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #57
Especially when school funding is cut by Republicans. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #75
Will quit teaching before I carry. callous taoboy Apr 2013 #3
If it is so easy to overpower an armed person, why do cops carry guns? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #9
So we should have cops as teachers? liberal N proud Apr 2013 #11
Staffers, not teachers, are to be armed. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #13
Nothin says fear me sharp_stick Apr 2013 #18
What is stupid about a trained, armed staffer? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #20
Yup cause the only sharp_stick Apr 2013 #21
So your solution is let the rampager keep killing. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #22
Your love of your precious has demented tabasco Apr 2013 #36
Your personal attack does not count for a rebuttal. N/T GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #37
Then I shall point out your failure in logic tabasco Apr 2013 #85
That still isn't a rebuttal. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #88
Pretty weak straw man sharp_stick Apr 2013 #87
You haven't offered a solution. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #89
Yes I have, just not here sharp_stick Apr 2013 #90
My wife is an office staffer in an elementary school. She would not ever madinmaryland Apr 2013 #42
My wife and I are 67 & 66. We both work as security guards. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #55
Congratulations on being security guards and enjoying handling firearms. As to your questions... madinmaryland Apr 2013 #62
Well for one thing do you even know where schools are getting custodians these days? MichiganVote Apr 2013 #46
Staffers, not custodians. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #56
Other than school admin. the only staffers are teachers nowadays. So say Teachers. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #58
School admin are staffers. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #61
Well you mentioned office staff in an earlier response. Most of them are women in their 50's MichiganVote Apr 2013 #63
They wouldn't watch the door. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #65
The first few shots in any school would likely be at the office staff, who would probably just die. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #66
And not having a gun would enable them to live? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #69
Armed guards were at columbine, and at va tech... Neither stopped the slaughter. peacebird Apr 2013 #52
The Columbine guard wasn't there. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #60
"abilities only seen in ninja movies" rdharma Apr 2013 #80
I call BS on NRA research regarding former police officers volunteering... Mike Daniels Apr 2013 #10
The NRA is more about greed than the Second Amendment liberal N proud Apr 2013 #14
Then there is the issue of insurance liability. That will cost. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #25
Those who can be counted on for effective security...... rdharma Apr 2013 #81
In the same report the NRA suggested: GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #12
Seriously, don't defend the NRA logic. ellisonz Apr 2013 #15
Rampagers plan their killing sprees well in advance. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #16
"They will get guns, no matter what laws you pass." ellisonz Apr 2013 #17
Common sense. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #19
You're The One Who Thinks Guns Are "Magical Items." Paladin Apr 2013 #23
So letting the rampager keep killing is a solution, according to you. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #24
I guess you're beyond the point..... Paladin Apr 2013 #40
Sure. And while we're at it, let's limit the # of bullets the killer can spew on everyone. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #29
The VT killer used standard magazines. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #32
So in actuality, your solution is just to do nothing. Just let the kids take care of themselves MichiganVote Apr 2013 #33
These rampagers ignore "gun free zone" laws. beevul Apr 2013 #34
But how do you know that of all the schools in this country, these laws are ignored MichiganVote Apr 2013 #38
Really? beevul Apr 2013 #44
So called law abiding citizens with guns violate the laws too with and without MichiganVote Apr 2013 #48
Did anyone say they didn't? beevul Apr 2013 #51
"Comparative little security has been added"..on that we agree. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #54
We aren't so far apart as it may have seemed. beevul Apr 2013 #67
No problem. I can tell you what I am for certain-anti bad gun owners. And there are a lot of them. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #78
Mother Jones destroys yet another gunfucker talking point.. frylock Apr 2013 #39
Thats nice, but its a strawman. beevul Apr 2013 #47
They sure didn't pay any attention to the "gun free zone" signs, did they? GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #72
what's a "guns allowed" place? frylock Apr 2013 #74
Any place that doesn't have a no-guns sign. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #82
My solution is a trained, armed person at the school. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #35
Who will pay for this new requirement? XRubicon Apr 2013 #41
So prove the merits of your solution with data. You need evidence. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #43
Those are fair questions. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #73
Thank you. But for the record I'm not an anti-gunner. I am opposed to AR-15's or their MichiganVote Apr 2013 #77
They might get them now because of you guys, but in future it will be tougher. Hoyt Apr 2013 #59
IN case you've missed it, the public won't even pay enuf' for books in schools today MichiganVote Apr 2013 #28
This will be paid for by either cutting teachers pay, eliminating neverforget Apr 2013 #84
Teachers throughout the country are taking pay cuts, positions have been cut, MichiganVote Apr 2013 #86
The answer to every question etherealtruth Apr 2013 #26
More guns = more profits. moondust Apr 2013 #31
GREAT idea - what could possibly go wrong? jmg257 Apr 2013 #27
The NRA has turned a corner ... on sucking. DirkGently Apr 2013 #30
Dumb fucking idea!.... Bigmack Apr 2013 #50
Next up: Theaters, malls, moondust Apr 2013 #53
who the fuck are they to recommend anything to anybody spanone Apr 2013 #64
LOD is destroying these clowns on the The Last Word. bluedigger Apr 2013 #68
Yes, yes he is. Hutchinson wouldn't say how much he's being paid. ellisonz Apr 2013 #70
THAT IS JUST FUCKING INSANE........ fucking eh! n/t Hotler Apr 2013 #71
I'm a teacher, not a soldier. nt Deep13 Apr 2013 #76
The NRA needs to die. Apophis Apr 2013 #79
Not I. Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #83
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