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ZOB

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25. Anybody who kills a large number of people has a "mental illness"

Tue Apr 2, 2013, 08:00 PM

Apr 2013

To ward off the picky people, we'll exempt soldiers in battle from this definition.

If Lanza didn't have a mental illness, or defect, or disability, or whatever you'd like to call it, he wouldn't have shot anybody...regardless of how many guns he had at his disposal, what type of guns they were, or the size of the magazines.

I'm in no way stating that all mentally people are violent, but all mass killers are mentally ill. Mental illness is the CAUSE and until we deal with the cause, no meaningful change is going to be made.

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Eleven children escaped Newtown classroom while Adam Lanza was reloading [View all] Bjorn Against Apr 2013 OP

Every second counts. MichiganVote Apr 2013 #1

And every life counts too. tblue Apr 2013 #78

OMG that woman is soooooo ignorant! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #2

What lets them know an OP about guns has appeared. upaloopa Apr 2013 #5

"What lets them know an OP about guns has appeared." Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #15

I like to think of them as the Morlocks. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #71

And it's not a "magazine". UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #12

Actually, it is magazine... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #16

Good for you. That makes all the difference. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #18

I am for reduced magazine sizes... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #20

My mistake. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #21

No problem... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #23

It's not a "clip" or a "magazine," it's an ammunition reservoir. tclambert Apr 2013 #69

Magazines have a mechanism to push the rounds up jmowreader Apr 2013 #68

They haven't "learned", they "believe". NOT confirmed by authorities. ZOB Apr 2013 #3

These are the victim's families, they personally know the eyewitnesses Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #6

What they witnessed must have been so horrific that I hope this isn't true. Those poor babies. Glimmer of Hope Apr 2013 #7

A bunch of 6-year olds fleeing for their lives said he was reloading? ZOB Apr 2013 #8

Seems obvious to me, but for the sake of gun lovers let's study it for decades. Hoyt Apr 2013 #10

You do realize that the police don't speak publicly about all the info they have don't you? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #11

What cops (and at times Fire) are ever tight lipped! nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #37

This is repugnant. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #29

Yes. And he was just tombstoned, soon to return under a new name... SunSeeker Apr 2013 #43

Good riddance. Raine1967 Apr 2013 #44

Those little shits are out to take his guns, don'cha know? Scootaloo Apr 2013 #66

Well, I'm sure you are much more concerned with defending against ANY justification jmg257 Apr 2013 #46

God almighty. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #13

I just believe that magazine capacity is a distraction. ZOB Apr 2013 #14

What if someone is mentally disturbed about guns? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #17

Then they shouldn't own one. ZOB Apr 2013 #22

This could get ugly. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #35

Just verifying ... you don't own any guns ....right? etherealtruth Apr 2013 #36

Worked out well for Adam, and his gun freak mom, didn't it? jmg257 Apr 2013 #52

She paid the ultimate price. undeterred Apr 2013 #79

Eleven children are alive today who may not have been if Lanza had not had to reload Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #19

Anybody who kills a large number of people has a "mental illness" ZOB Apr 2013 #25

Can we quantify 'mental illness'? Electric Monk Apr 2013 #27

That is a false statement, there have been many killers who were not mentally ill Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #31

Man I am tired of that meme. You are never going to put a upaloopa Apr 2013 #33

Absolutely perfect etherealtruth Apr 2013 #38

This is false, they could be plain old jerks like McVeigh etc...most mass killers are REALLY stupid uponit7771 Apr 2013 #41

Was his Mom mentally ill? He used her guns. So because she had jmg257 Apr 2013 #53

Psstt..if he didn't have access to guns, he wouldn't have shot anyone either. jmg257 Apr 2013 #56

If he hadn't been previously diagnosed lark Apr 2013 #80

I've wondered about that NickB79 Apr 2013 #26

Ironic...while the shooter was momentarily distracted by reloading, eleven children were saved. FLyellowdog Apr 2013 #24

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #30

So you dismiss this as "only eleven kids"? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #32

That was a horrible comment BainsBane Apr 2013 #34

When a gungeoneer is offensive, DUers put him on ignore--which disqualifies them from his jury. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #48

fortunately this one did BainsBane Apr 2013 #49

Good point about un-intended consequences of the ignore feature :) nt Electric Monk Apr 2013 #51

Incredile, isn't it? Sometimes I don't get the attitude here. Nt jmg257 Apr 2013 #50

You are wrong. There will always be mentally ill people. We have to limit access to upaloopa Apr 2013 #28

I am so glad we are at last addressing this talking point head on. You are right. CTyankee Apr 2013 #65

Enough with the lies. Magazine capacity was pivotal in Newtown & Aurora & Tucson. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #39

If it takes a couple seconds to reload, & you only have a 10 round clip.... Rinse & repeat. LIFE! peacebird Apr 2013 #40

Yes guns are tools. Deadly weapons that are the tools of the trade jmg257 Apr 2013 #47

lack of experience equals ignorance daybranch Apr 2013 #57

Not an either/or choice. cvoogt Apr 2013 #59

horseshit. spanone Apr 2013 #55

Obviously they should have had their own guns mythology Apr 2013 #4

Limit those damn magazines now Progressive dog Apr 2013 #9

The gunman who shot Gabby Giffords Ilsa Apr 2013 #42

And if just one of those kids... FreeJoe Apr 2013 #45

our representatives in congress really don't give a shit. not one bit. spanone Apr 2013 #54

Banning those magazines protects law enforcement too. gulliver Apr 2013 #58

oh but the gun fuckers simply cannot be inconvenienced by constant reloading.. frylock Apr 2013 #60

+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #84

There's also the raised probablility defacto7 Apr 2013 #61

No, the most dangerous part of an assault weapon isn't the mag...it's the idiot brandishing. flvegan Apr 2013 #62

Sure it is tkmorris Apr 2013 #63

i think gun helps arely staircase Apr 2013 #64

LOL. Thanks for posting. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #73

Here we go again cvoogt Apr 2013 #72

Nah, limit the bullets for automatic rifles and make em rearm a lot...seems simple uponit7771 Apr 2013 #74

Since when was a person a part of an assault rifle? Bjorn Against Apr 2013 #75

When they picked it up. flvegan Apr 2013 #85

Other countries have idiots, yet don't have this problem. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #76

Well, that is kind of true. HappyMe Apr 2013 #77

K and r Berlum Apr 2013 #67

that some children had the tenacity to run away and not freeze is a miracle.. Sunlei Apr 2013 #70

Cool down time between reloads, like a video game? Rounds are endless? Occulus Apr 2013 #82

yes some games do have cool down times for plenty of actions, or the 'costs' and levels limit Sunlei Apr 2013 #83

Damn, this is so heartbreaking. Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2013 #81

This thread breaks my heart Sophiegirl Apr 2013 #86