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117. Read post #5. nt.

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When Obama signs a law into effect, he is not responsible... [View all] Bonobo Mar 2013 OP

its like chess Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #1

Or sometimes a stinky cheese HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #46

lol..nt Paul E Ester Mar 2013 #63

And when a law passes with good things and bad things in it onenote Mar 2013 #2

I expect him to veto it. Bonobo Mar 2013 #4

BS. Your point is your opposition to Obama, imo. No more nor less. pinto Mar 2013 #9

+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #12

yup. They both also blamed him for everything before he even took office graham4anything Mar 2013 #31

+10000 Champion Jack Mar 2013 #35

I'm thinking you are onto something here Sheepshank Mar 2013 #56

BS. The point is Opposition to BAD policy. bvar22 Mar 2013 #106

I hear you. Totally support criticism. Support that there's a context, as well. pinto Mar 2013 #107

Well said. Overseas Mar 2013 #111

A veto could be responded with by petulant obstructionists... joshcryer Mar 2013 #25

You should at least pretend to read the posts you're responding to. jeff47 Mar 2013 #70

So protecting the American people from Corporate power is now 'a waste of sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #36

Environmentalists aren't even invited to the discussion. Octafish Mar 2013 #45

That's the big thing. AndyA Mar 2013 #102

Of course-- because they're bound to win anyway, see? You should learn to be a good, Marr Mar 2013 #64

Could you point out the specific language in the bill that's so objectionable? jeff47 Mar 2013 #69

I've already posted the specific language in the bill, attached to one of your own sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #94

Actucally, you didn't. You posted someone else writting about it. jeff47 Mar 2013 #103

Why should we... Oilwellian Mar 2013 #82

I thought I was voting for a person with principals, who do you think you voted for? A Simple Game Mar 2013 #73

Six of the seven members who proposed an amendment to strip the provision onenote Mar 2013 #86

Snopes did Monsanto, elleng Mar 2013 #3

It appears you are out of your element. Whisp Mar 2013 #5

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #10

+1...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #13

I also got this today in an email Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #19

It took a lot a google time to read into this quaker bill Mar 2013 #113

Lol, the only problem with Monsanto's memo on how to handle the anger sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #37

+1. n/t FSogol Mar 2013 #44

+1 Whisp! n/t sheshe2 Mar 2013 #72

Hey, don't bother the Haters, they're on a roll! nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #114

What the hell are you suggesting exactly? gcomeau Mar 2013 #6

A President has every right to veto a bill he disapproves of Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #8

The continuing funding bill couldn't be vetoed, imo. Of course he had the right to veto. pinto Mar 2013 #16

Huh? I'm confused.... Bonobo Mar 2013 #17

Nothing is veto proof. Obama can veto any legislation in his role as President. pinto Mar 2013 #18

I don't have time to look that up right now. Bonobo Mar 2013 #20

I'm not focused on who's right or wrong. It's an interesting piece of political background, imo. pinto Mar 2013 #22

Probably wouldn't have gotten that impression without post #9. Bonobo Mar 2013 #23

See your point. pinto Mar 2013 #24

I don't have time to look it up either onenote Mar 2013 #88

I think definitely it would've caused havoc and lots of retaliation. joshcryer Mar 2013 #26

to take a stand one has to have princples one is willing to fight for nt msongs Mar 2013 #32

So he should have SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT for a SYMBOLIC gesture???? gcomeau Mar 2013 #49

Why would a bill like that pass with a veto proof majority unless the party sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #74

A bill like that? gcomeau Mar 2013 #78

Yes, that little rider only removed all regulations that protect our food supply. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #87

No it didn't gcomeau Mar 2013 #90

There are a number of things that previous Presidents have done. bvar22 Mar 2013 #108

Oh come on. You know it was a blind amendment tacked on to the funding bill that had to be passed. pinto Mar 2013 #7

"blind"? onenote Mar 2013 #84

My understanding is that it was submitted without a sponsor of record. Hence "blind". pinto Mar 2013 #89

It was included in the substitute amendment "sponsored" by Mikulski onenote Mar 2013 #91

Ah, thanks. I must have misunderstood it. pinto Mar 2013 #93

Until you get a Constitutional amendment allowing for a line-item veto (something I would support), NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #11

Love to see you busted -again- for the smear. cliffordu Mar 2013 #14

It's not the OP who's been busted. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #38

Thanks and people that make a big deal about the 6 months thing... Bonobo Mar 2013 #59

And the 'Don't worry it'll only last 6 months' argument rusty fender Mar 2013 #110

Read post #5 and tell me which of those things we can do without. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #116

Yup...nt SidDithers Mar 2013 #41

"It's all the Republicans' fault," or so we've been told. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #15

There's just ALWAYS some kind of excuse. Bonobo Mar 2013 #21

You call it excuses? Sheepshank Mar 2013 #65

I want legislation making laws be singlular. joshcryer Mar 2013 #27

I could not possibly agree more. nt Bonobo Mar 2013 #28

The best solution would be a one-time "gimmie." joshcryer Mar 2013 #33

Does everyone realize that PO already signed this bill into law? ReRe Mar 2013 #29

POTUS Obama could have vetoed the spending spill PufPuf23 Mar 2013 #30

You don't veto a spending bill and risk a government shutdown... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #34

But you would if you were a Republican President and the bill sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #39

That's a poor excuse. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #42

No, its actually a damn good excuse. phleshdef Mar 2013 #53

Nope, unless you're getting paid or otherwise financially benefiting from this, it's a poor excuse. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #60

Yea, shut the government down and kill the Violence Against Women Act to feel more uber progressive. phleshdef Mar 2013 #66

What you say is totally irrelevant to the thread. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #68

Its 100% relevant, in every single possible way. phleshdef Mar 2013 #105

then no one is markeybrown Mar 2013 #40

Do you ProSense Mar 2013 #43

There Bonobo Mar 2013 #47

What ProSense Mar 2013 #48

Oh Bonobo Mar 2013 #51

Like I said ProSense Mar 2013 #52

I Bonobo Mar 2013 #54

Oh, ProSense Mar 2013 #62

idle curiousity dsc Mar 2013 #95

Bill Clinton ProSense Mar 2013 #96

name one saying that dsc Mar 2013 #97

You ProSense Mar 2013 #98

translation dsc Mar 2013 #99

Translation ProSense Mar 2013 #101

One person and one person only... 99Forever Mar 2013 #50

Explain how the use of the veto pen would have played out in this case onenote Mar 2013 #83

What specifically was in the bill Obama signed? Sheepshank Mar 2013 #55

Isn't it odd that the people who are so enraged have not been able to point to the problem? (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #71

Read post #5. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #117

No. No. He caved to Monsanto for our own good and he couldn't find his veto pen. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #57

what was in the bill that constituted caving to Monsato? thanks. n/t Sheepshank Mar 2013 #58

The bill completely removed all regulations and protections that were in place sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #75

Actualy it didn't.... Sheepshank Mar 2013 #109

So you support Monsanto then? Bush Sr was right in your opinion, to work so sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #118

Bullshit...typical RW twisting of "A" then must be "B" Sheepshank Apr 2013 #120

OMG he didn't veto a bill to fund the government that passed with a veto proof majority onenote Mar 2013 #81

"he couldn't find his veto pen." bvar22 Mar 2013 #112

Quit whining and eat your GMO peas already. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #61

Indeed. woo me with science Mar 2013 #67

Then you better get busy finding the super Progressive candidate for 2016 ... or ... JoePhilly Mar 2013 #76

God, that was weak. Bonobo Mar 2013 #77

And yet totally accurate. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #79

Nothing is eating me alive. Bonobo Mar 2013 #80

Your OPs suggest other. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #85

I actually think the Obama "criticism" from the left helps him. gulliver Mar 2013 #92

It's not that easy treestar Mar 2013 #100

In 2008, one of the Presidential Candidates promised... bvar22 Mar 2013 #104

he was taken out of context... KG Mar 2013 #115

The CR was given to the President on 22 March and signed 26 March tammywammy Apr 2013 #119