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92. There is no subject on which any demographic has "no say" on anything. nt.

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MRA's (Mens Rights Activists) are extremely critical of feminism. [View all] boston bean Mar 2013 OP

Well, it's simple, Boston Bean... Scootaloo Mar 2013 #1

I hope I that I stated what I wanted to say clearly. boston bean Mar 2013 #2

Sometimes one does wonder... Scootaloo Apr 2013 #182

I have thought for some time that ALL social issues, truebluegreen Apr 2013 #336

Alternatively jollyreaper2112 Mar 2013 #3

I agree Vinnie From Indy Mar 2013 #4

Dunno jollyreaper2112 Mar 2013 #10

false equivalency abounds! CTyankee Mar 2013 #6

It's apt jollyreaper2112 Mar 2013 #41

not sure of what you mean about feminist "sins" against men... CTyankee Mar 2013 #69

We're uppity - that's our sin. We're supposed to be meek and submissive little wifeys. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #277

funny that I haven't heard from any of the guys on this...I sure wish they'd tell me CTyankee Apr 2013 #287

Like hell you are Occulus Apr 2013 #354

You don't know what your sin is? AgainsttheCrown Apr 2013 #380

I've got to debunk your first sentence. boston bean Mar 2013 #8

One of the most productive discussions we've had on DU in years was "benevolent sexism" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #288

You seem to be getting stuck on the fact that all feminists don't agree on all feminist Squinch Apr 2013 #302

I think I read the same OP you did. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #317

Neither is any list from the NRA a definitive list of "what gun advocates are working on." Squinch Apr 2013 #319

Your first sentence is exactly right. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #321

I see you often in discussions about gun control. I haven't seen you call out Wayne LaPierre. Squinch Apr 2013 #342

I rarely (almost never) wade into discussions about gun control. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #343

So you went searching hard for outrageousness. And you found it. Squinch Apr 2013 #344

Seeing as how it was posted, and cheered, right here at DU, the "search" was quite short. opiate69 Apr 2013 #345

are you talking about starving boys? cheered? cause i really have an issue seabeyond Apr 2013 #347

I`m talking about the link to the nutcase`s site. opiate69 Apr 2013 #348

and it is shamefully irresponsible to feel gossip that women on du would advocate starving boys. seabeyond Apr 2013 #356

I dd no such thing.. however, opiate69 Apr 2013 #357

i am not gonna play the chicken shit, dishonest, petty little fuckin game. you and others can seabeyond Apr 2013 #361

Again.. where did I specifically accuse you or anybody of cheering starving little boys? opiate69 Apr 2013 #363

playing fuckin games... about starving children. screeeam. seabeyond Apr 2013 #366

It is not as disgusting as BostonBean accusing a father of incest. nt Bonobo Apr 2013 #368

instead of actually thinking about what is being said here, you continue the game. seabeyond Apr 2013 #369

btw opiate. i understand that was in COMMENT section. is that correct? comments? right? now i seabeyond Apr 2013 #362

Other people in your group saw, and praised, the comments... opiate69 Apr 2013 #373

again... dishonest presentation. 1 poster said the comments funny or something. NOT specifically seabeyond Apr 2013 #374

Uh-yup... As I expected.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #375

praise? saying i do not know what comment she talked about. saying i do not know if she read seabeyond Apr 2013 #376

They were in the fucking comments of the article which was posted ffs. opiate69 Apr 2013 #378

i will say it once more. i went into the blog AFTER bb locked it to see where the comment was. seabeyond Apr 2013 #379

As opiate69 points out, one need not go far to find that particular outrageousness. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #346

was that the one that advocated starving little boys? arely staircase Apr 2013 #353

Ever hear of Jonathan Swift? Squinch Apr 2013 #372

Your contention is that it was... satire? Marr Apr 2013 #377

The one woman who said Adria "has a history of unproductive trolling" redqueen Mar 2013 #9

Aw jollyreaper2112 Mar 2013 #14

Twitter is not a work site for her betterdemsonly Apr 2013 #350

Nice try jollyreaper2112 Apr 2013 #355

I see your point in saying that there are bad actors on both sides, but I have to disagree Squinch Mar 2013 #53

"The side with the upper hand is the one that needs to step back." CrispyQ Mar 2013 #63

"The woman" was not out of line. She neither induced the stupid and off-topic mbperrin Mar 2013 #83

very insightful. i am impressed. i was hearing the "to do" about this but didnt get informed cause seabeyond Mar 2013 #124

they made a joke not directed at her Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #129

The joke was directed at anyone who heard it. People too stupid to know that sound waves mbperrin Mar 2013 #144

corporate tools who fire people for juvenile offenses is *my* problem. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #145

hostile work environments are in about all employment agreements. break the law and co policy, you seabeyond Mar 2013 #147

yeh and nobody is more hostile than a self-important corporate tool. \n Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #148

good to know, you are on record opposing the laws that do not allow sexism in a work place. seabeyond Mar 2013 #149

You are in the wrong on this one. Just admit it. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #278

I'm not outraged. I'm a teacher. mbperrin Mar 2013 #150

Oh Shit! redqueen Mar 2013 #152

YIKES!!! chervilant Mar 2013 #157

"remember, when measuring, it's from the TOP of the penis." In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #186

I sure like your style, mbperrin. Whisp Apr 2013 #274

WIN. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #279

Then I was an idiot for firing the employee who used the word "faggot" repeatedly? LanternWaste Apr 2013 #233

Should "we" chervilant Mar 2013 #156

that is not what she did BainsBane Apr 2013 #392

That was very well said Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #5

"constantly being antagonistic towards men" redqueen Mar 2013 #7

A small number of them are antagonistic towards men Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #11

I thought you meant on DU. redqueen Mar 2013 #15

I never said it was logical, but a lot of people are not logical Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #20

Antagonistic toward sexism and misogyny is not antagonstic towards men. redqueen Mar 2013 #22

most feminists believe boston bean Mar 2013 #23

I believe the patriarchy is a real thing Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #29

Do you think that "small group" that is antagonistic toward "men in general" is on DU? redqueen Mar 2013 #31

I think there are a tiny handful of them, yes Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #39

I'm glad we have some men here who see things as they are. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #42

Agree! Katashi_itto Mar 2013 #45

I agree and I think it's worth adding that that tiny handful isn't exclusively women. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #292

MRA's do not believe the patriarchy exists. boston bean Mar 2013 #33

The MRA groups are often very antagonistic Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #44

Well, this brings us back to the OP boston bean Mar 2013 #48

I know you are correct on that point Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #56

Okay, so you want everyone who "doesn't believe The Patriarchy exists" banned? Which "Patriarchy"? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #238

The MRA group linked in the OP supports the equal rights amendment. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #293

I never said it was Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #24

So, it's not really the cause, boston bean Mar 2013 #26

I certainly think we need to talk about the system that oppresses women Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #35

Of course. Let me be the first to tell you that boston bean Mar 2013 #36

+10000000000 redqueen Mar 2013 #43

I am not suggesting that you have to say "I don't mean you" every single time Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #54

Well, we don't tolerate racists on DU. They don't get ignored. boston bean Mar 2013 #61

I think you are responding to the wrong person because I never said you should tolerate it Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #70

My apologies, I did misunderstand. boston bean Mar 2013 #72

Do you think feminists on DU post OPs or comments simply to "start gender wars"? nt redqueen Mar 2013 #78

The vast majority of them don't, but there are a tiny handful that I believe do that Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #80

The only bad apples I see here are the few misogynist trolls who try to kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #280

Who is this small group? haikugal Mar 2013 #107

WOW ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2013 #46

Hey you! redqueen Mar 2013 #47

Hey you, back ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2013 #57

and i STILL want to get back to you from a couple weeks ago. i gotta figure, seabeyond Mar 2013 #125

Bingo. Little Star Mar 2013 #51

Wow indeed. Hayabusa Apr 2013 #193

Of course. Like so many men who benefit from the patriarchy every day of their lives, kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #281

I don't benefit from anything. Hayabusa Apr 2013 #297

ORLY?? kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #301

Yup, my misfortunes in life are plenty funny. Hayabusa Apr 2013 #310

And a fish ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #308

Oh, I understand the concept plenty enough Hayabusa Apr 2013 #311

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #312

So, because I'm not female Hayabusa Apr 2013 #313

Take a moment and re-read what I wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #349

I don't understand. How can we become equal unless the patriarchy is ended first? Zorra Mar 2013 #73

It's not a negative qualifier, just a different theory of feminism. redqueen Mar 2013 #77

I see. Thanks. Zorra Mar 2013 #85

LOL....love it! +++++ haikugal Mar 2013 #111

as most all of us are. you are right. we have had to look up definitions as accusation are hurled seabeyond Mar 2013 #126

I think you made a distinction that reveals an important fault line. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2013 #113

:-) MuseRider Mar 2013 #123

For some, the whole issue IS a gender war. polly7 Mar 2013 #28

This!! ^^^^^^^^^ BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #140

Any movement that changed society, throughout history, was considered Squinch Mar 2013 #168

A question, haikugal Mar 2013 #81

I already said I will not name names in this thread, but it is a very small number of them Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #84

My question haikugal Mar 2013 #95

You must have responded to the wrong person then because you replied to me not Red Queen Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #97

OK... haikugal Mar 2013 #109

Links would not violate rules, and would allow some credibility LanternWaste Apr 2013 #234

you mean the premise like "There are MRAs on DU" in "certain groups", wink wink? Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #242

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #25

and why shouldn't it be alerted on? boston bean Mar 2013 #27

Thus far, chervilant Mar 2013 #74

wtf is "feminist governance"? sigmasix Mar 2013 #12

It's their imaginary friend. Or imaginary disapproving mother. Can't look too deep into this Squinch Mar 2013 #62

mommy issues sigmasix Mar 2013 #119

That is very interesting! And I am being totally serious and not Squinch Mar 2013 #166

I don't need to ask for directions damn it MattBaggins Apr 2013 #200

. Squinch Apr 2013 #201

cause you meant to take that two hour detour, right? that pretty park was a must see. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #203

I agree that using this approach seems to be part of the problem sigmasix Apr 2013 #222

I hear what you are saying, but at a young age, I made a conscious Squinch Apr 2013 #305

very, very well said. agreed. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #306

i see what you're saying and I agree sigmasix Apr 2013 #318

You keep saying things that turn on light bulbs for me. Squinch Apr 2013 #320

DU Rec Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #13

I think they snowballed from legitimate complaints of he legal system ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #16

MRAs hate men like Jackson Katz. redqueen Mar 2013 #17

Sad to say, the men on DU who openly show support for us get that same treatment. n/t Little Star Mar 2013 #21

WTF? LIB! Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #19

They can have their fun in their little group, as can the feminists... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #18

I haven't seen any MRA extremists here. polly7 Mar 2013 #32

Here's the really fun part Major Nikon Mar 2013 #87

What do you think of reddit's men's rights subforum? redqueen Mar 2013 #90

I've never seen it Major Nikon Mar 2013 #94

Oh please, not that witch hunt again. redqueen Mar 2013 #96

Yes, someone did post it there. That's kind of the whole point. Major Nikon Mar 2013 #102

I didn't click it, assumed you were talking about something more recent. Re-read, I've edited. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #103

If you don't want to discuss it, take it out of your signature. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #110

Here's more of the fun part Major Nikon Mar 2013 #115

Post removed Post removed Apr 2013 #272

WTF is that? LittleBlue Mar 2013 #98

It's something no one takes literally... well, except redqueen Mar 2013 #100

So you actually think it was posted as a joke? Major Nikon Mar 2013 #106

You should ask the person who links to that site with each and every one of their posts Major Nikon Mar 2013 #101

That was supposedly written way back in 1968. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #282

"Supposedly"???? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #285

It was written by a self-described feminist Major Nikon Apr 2013 #286

Your post chervilant Mar 2013 #164

"The feminists" are a divisive group? Squinch Mar 2013 #64

No. Just the ones who claim to discuss feminist "history" while doing nothing of the sort. Occulus Apr 2013 #325

you ought to pay attention to all the men that perfectly understood the issue and though those seabeyond Apr 2013 #326

I hear this all the time. First, if you are going to call out a group, Squinch Apr 2013 #327

First, I did not call out a group. I pointed specifically to individuals within the group. Occulus Apr 2013 #328

here is the obvious. someone asked what benevolent sexism is. i gave exampleS and definition. YOU seabeyond Apr 2013 #329

Except that the whole "door" controversy was manufactured by people trying to discredit Squinch Apr 2013 #331

Then we agree, because that is the whole of my point. Occulus Apr 2013 #334

That's pretty childish, don't you think? You forgot to put "nyah!" at the end of it. Squinch Apr 2013 #381

No, not really. Occulus Apr 2013 #384

"your whole fucking culture alienates me!" redqueen Apr 2013 #333

"So, fuck them. Right in the ear." Scout Apr 2013 #337

Thank you for that. Occulus Apr 2013 #351

Go into the feminist groups you in your manly wisdom deem worthy and ask about benevolent sexism. redqueen Apr 2013 #330

double dog dare.... nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #332

The Men's Rights Movement: Southern Poverty Law Center take cali Mar 2013 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2013 #386

Oh, but why leave out the "money shot"???? opiate69 Apr 2013 #389

Yeah! We want everyone to enjoy yarn-themed activities. knitter4democracy Mar 2013 #34

Maybe & that could make them a danger. n/t Little Star Mar 2013 #60

You mean they don't already enjoy yarn-themed activities? Our culture IS in trouble! Squinch Apr 2013 #303

Ooh, good idea! knitter4democracy Apr 2013 #304

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2013 #37

Excellent point! In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #187

If MRA types were serious, they would be allied with feminists in working against the patriarchy... YoungDemCA Mar 2013 #38

Using the source provided by the OP lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #93

My brother is one of these MRA guys. "Feminist governance"? ProfessionalLeftist Mar 2013 #40

Yep. Little Star Mar 2013 #65

Well said...Thank You! haikugal Mar 2013 #114

+1 ~ Everything in the "Part Four: List of Men's Rights Issues" excerpt Zorra Mar 2013 #49

The problem is, and always will be that of identification. Zeteticus Mar 2013 #50

Personally, I think the actual issue is more about who holds the most power not.. Little Star Mar 2013 #55

I agree in regard to the power structure... Zeteticus Mar 2013 #67

When you reduce it to its most basic component, MRAs have mommy issues. All of them. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #52

And when it comes to some of the radical feminists whose methods of polly7 Mar 2013 #66

lol Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #75

Thanks, glad you get humour out of the same thing you're skewering polly7 Mar 2013 #76

Your awesome polly7 Phlem Apr 2013 #184

ah, so another, i really use to support women but now, meh. no way. really? seabeyond Apr 2013 #190

Ha! Phlem Apr 2013 #226

you say... we lost your support. i ask what that means. you do not answer. all the rest is filler. seabeyond Apr 2013 #228

What's this? Phlem Apr 2013 #231

you say no support toward women. i ask what that means. no support for equal pay? seabeyond Apr 2013 #239

you don't seem to understand do you. Phlem Apr 2013 #243

lol. so, you wont tell me how our loss of support from you will effect us, or what that means. hmm seabeyond Apr 2013 #245

Gotcha? Phlem Apr 2013 #246

not really. i have been consistent. hey, just do not vote against wife and daughters interests seabeyond Apr 2013 #248

Whatever Phlem Apr 2013 #250

I get where you're coming from ... polly7 Apr 2013 #204

This approach is how you attract bees. Phlem Apr 2013 #230

you calling names using scorn and ridicule is not abuse. me challenging you on putting out you dont seabeyond Apr 2013 #241

Why do you have to ask? Phlem Apr 2013 #244

but i do not have the answers. obviously. hence my repeated questions to you. YOU seem to not seabeyond Apr 2013 #247

And again Phlem Apr 2013 #249

Misandry? Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #253

Yes Phlem Apr 2013 #258

"keep it up mouth"? Sheldon Cooper Apr 2013 #255

No Phlem Apr 2013 #257

wtf? i am suppose to know your history? you snark, snide, ridicule, insult and that makes ME seabeyond Apr 2013 #261

lol Phlem Apr 2013 #262

you mean, i do not even get to decide if i can callout you snark, snide, ridicule, insult seabeyond Apr 2013 #263

Ok, I'll bite - where is this supposed hateful rhetoric and ideology happening? Dash87 Apr 2013 #197

Hey Dash - Squinch Apr 2013 #214

LOL Phlem Apr 2013 #260

So you think Herb Goldberg has "mommy issues"? Major Nikon Mar 2013 #117

lol Phlem Apr 2013 #259

The worst part is most of them aren't even activists. Evoman Mar 2013 #58

Men do have shelters Major Nikon Mar 2013 #120

Ah no, that's the place men who commit crimes go, not men who get beat up. Evoman Mar 2013 #142

Exactly Major Nikon Mar 2013 #143

So what are you going to do about it? Evoman Mar 2013 #146

If money is being taken from the government, then people have a right to complain Major Nikon Mar 2013 #151

MRAs won't do that work. They'd rather cry about why feminists aren't doing it *for* them. redqueen Mar 2013 #153

we have been called out continually, to go fight mans battle. if we are not equally fighting mans seabeyond Mar 2013 #155

I've never even claimed it was my battle Major Nikon Mar 2013 #160

i know you do not claim it to be your battle. you claim it to be our battle ... for men. you do seabeyond Mar 2013 #161

Not correct Major Nikon Mar 2013 #162

that is right. cant dig for the post. in meta. people will just have to go off memory. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #163

You won't find anything that contradicts the other post Major Nikon Mar 2013 #171

i clearly said, and will repeat. yes. i know. it was never your battle. it was derailing to seabeyond Mar 2013 #173

Not the battle. The tactic. Major Nikon Mar 2013 #175

What battle? polly7 Mar 2013 #177

I'm not so sure that behavior enjoys gender exclusion Major Nikon Mar 2013 #158

I support your comment. n/t Helen Reddy Mar 2013 #127

A combination of fools and Astroturf. bemildred Mar 2013 #59

"feminist governance" CrispyQ Mar 2013 #68

I think that 'governance' is really another word for Whisp Mar 2013 #88

Which means MRA groups should really be called VCU groups for Squinch Mar 2013 #170

Pointing to genders of decision-makers doesn't resolve the question. Jim Lane Mar 2013 #135

Men have no say on feminism. ananda Mar 2013 #71

There is no subject on which any demographic has "no say" on anything. nt. sibelian Mar 2013 #92

Another "shut up and do as you are told" lover of equal rights? ElboRuum Mar 2013 #104

I believe the only man who has a say on abortion is the woman's doctor. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #138

I agree with this. And the only say the doctor has is what time the appointment should be. Squinch Mar 2013 #169

In an ideal world, in the case of a complicated pregnancy, CrispyQ Apr 2013 #195

Yes. At least that legislation brings the prevailing opinion of the Kansas and Arizona legislators Squinch Apr 2013 #196

I was a one issue voter for years, & that issue was reproductive choice. CrispyQ Apr 2013 #198

But fight it we must, and fight it we will! History tends toward Squinch Apr 2013 #199

So would it also be equally true that women have no say on men's rights issues? Major Nikon Mar 2013 #121

Excellent post--k&r spooky3 Mar 2013 #79

For further reading... Major Nikon Mar 2013 #82

It's not just feminists. It's all women. Dash87 Mar 2013 #86

All women don't believe the same things. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #108

Not even all feminists do Major Nikon Mar 2013 #112

I meant that AVoiceforMen and similar sites hate all women, not just feminists. Dash87 Mar 2013 #154

And yet at least two of their more popular bloggers are women. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #174

That hardly matters, as you can find any type of person anywhere to support dumb ideas. Dash87 Mar 2013 #180

Phyllis Schaffly did spawn, after all. Squinch Apr 2013 #215

Here is what she had to say about the Equal Rights Amendment lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #294

National Organization for Women thought men should be the sole breadwinners? That IS news. Squinch Apr 2013 #300

It matters when the post I'm responding to says "all women". n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #219

You've found an exception is all: Anyone that buys into their wacky ideology is fine to them. Dash87 Apr 2013 #237

I really can't stand this whole thing LittleBlue Mar 2013 #89

So many layers of presumption. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2013 #91

Is the civil rights movement about advocacy or equality? Squinch Mar 2013 #176

A lot of men think women have it made in this country davidn3600 Mar 2013 #99

American women may be doing better than women around the world. undeterred Mar 2013 #105

A lot of men think that the earth is 4000 years old and Jesus rode a dinosaur around town. Squinch Mar 2013 #178

i LUV. yes, please. tell him and let us know what he says, lol. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #179

Because they are really insecure little boys. alarimer Mar 2013 #116

I have one bone to pick... ljm2002 Mar 2013 #118

hey... i was thinking this was a good idea to put this in GD. and here it is. ya. seabeyond Mar 2013 #122

k&r Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #128

YOU.... seabeyond Mar 2013 #131

Well, I did call someone a troll. Starry Messenger Mar 2013 #134

i hear ya. that might getcha or not. and ya seabeyond Mar 2013 #139

ha ha, I said I thought someone wasn't an idiot and got a hide bettyellen Mar 2013 #165

Interesting list. Rex Mar 2013 #130

Self-deleted because I refuse to say this was sarcasm again. n/t cynatnite Mar 2013 #132

Of course not, and anyone that says otherwise is full of 100% grade-A cow manure. Dash87 Mar 2013 #167

Forgot the sarcasm thingy. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #192

I can't think of one area where men have lost rights over time. Dash87 Apr 2013 #202

I was being sarcastic when I said it. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #206

They don't have fewer rights but Squinch Apr 2013 #205

I was being sarcastic when I said it. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #207

DAMN! That's three times today I didn't get sarcasm. I usually get it! Squinch Apr 2013 #209

Non native-american women can't be tried by tribal courts lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #221

nevermind. n/t cynatnite Apr 2013 #236

MRA is a hate movement, little different than white rights movements CreekDog Mar 2013 #133

What do MRA's say about specific laws that exemplify feminist principles? Jim Lane Mar 2013 #136

Most men's rights advocates are antifeminist pigs. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #137

K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #141

We need to pass a new ERA felix_numinous Mar 2013 #159

Some feminists hated ERA too davidn3600 Apr 2013 #183

+1 In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #188

What's with this Fox news-ish "some say" stuff? That's the second time you've Squinch Apr 2013 #208

It's well-known common knowledge davidn3600 Apr 2013 #251

Like the way it's well known common knowledge Squinch Apr 2013 #256

I was referring to MRAs in that post davidn3600 Apr 2013 #264

Not an answer to the question. See what "some say" and get back to us. Squinch Apr 2013 #270

im not going to argue over semantics davidn3600 Apr 2013 #273

This. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #217

We are all equal but some are more equal than others, is the amendment NOW seems to want davidn3600 Apr 2013 #252

k and r niyad Mar 2013 #172

I'd never heard of MRAs until a day ago. blackspade Apr 2013 #181

Indeed! In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #185

Maybe some of these commenters haven't taken a women's study course mntleo2 Apr 2013 #189

what a post of stereotype accusations and dismissals. seabeyond Apr 2013 #191

^^^^^^^^ ^5 n/t Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #194

Do you have a link for the 43.3% lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #210

to be clear... you know, really clear. it was the feminist on du that demanded prison rape jokes seabeyond Apr 2013 #211

Yes. Credit where credit is due. Many people who identify as feminist have been in front of that. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #212

if you were to ask a feminist why men are 10x more likely to be in prison, it certainly would NOT be seabeyond Apr 2013 #213

^5! n/t Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #216

I have asked many feminists, and I often get that answer. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #218

and i have listened to many feminist and not heard one feminist say .... men are inherently bad. seabeyond Apr 2013 #220

I don't think I am the one picking and choosing. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #223

you dodged the point and took the argument elsewhere. nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #225

Your first point was that you hear "the evo bullshit" from men too. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #227

the point is you want to recognize men are not inherently violent, yet will promote seabeyond Apr 2013 #265

It isn't an all-or-nothing deal. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #283

this is getting good. down to the nitty gritty. but, alas, i have had too much wine. you know, seabeyond Apr 2013 #290

I will also PM you with the link mntleo2 Apr 2013 #391

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #224

i would like to read up on this case also JI7 Apr 2013 #275

I didn't find anything either. Squinch Apr 2013 #307

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #395

"I as a woman have seen the damage that feminism has done to men and boys." Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #284

Have you a link for that story? Over the years, I've seen you tell it here and on DKos but I've Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #295

hit and run? nt seabeyond Apr 2013 #296

There is nothing about this case anywhere on the net. The only Women's Studies story that I Luminous Animal Apr 2013 #298

hmmm. well, as you see from my reply. just not buying it. any of it. none of it makes sense seabeyond Apr 2013 #299

Years? redqueen Apr 2013 #322

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Apr 2013 #367

"I as a woman have seen the damage that feminism has done to men and boys. " geek tragedy Apr 2013 #341

Bullshit. Arkana Apr 2013 #359

You said "weapons-grade balonium!" Squinch Apr 2013 #382

Feminists do not want you to have to make alimony payments? WTF?! KittyWampus Apr 2013 #229

The way I read that, they are actually with you on this. Squinch Apr 2013 #309

Satan Worshippers are extremely critical of Christianity. Fred Phelps considers himself a Christian. Warren DeMontague Apr 2013 #232

Yup lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #235

This. Apophis Apr 2013 #266

Then they are not about men's rights Taverner Apr 2013 #240

Of course men's rights activists don't like feminism TimberValley Apr 2013 #254

Food for thought well worth dining on. Union Scribe Apr 2013 #267

Mostly, they hate paying child support. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #268

i found texas to be very equitable. not so much louisanna. that is why i have a tough time with seabeyond Apr 2013 #269

Texas law comes from Spanish law. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #271

There are some legitimate gender-specific complaints that men can raise... Deep13 Apr 2013 #276

WTH cares what the so-called "MRA's" like or don't like? WinkyDink Apr 2013 #289

because they are gaining momentum. and hurting women. they are growing, louder, stronger. where seabeyond Apr 2013 #291

It's really quite simple. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #314

MRAs are a hate group. Odin2005 Apr 2013 #315

Excellent post n/t Notafraidtoo Apr 2013 #316

What the hell is "rape hysteria"??? Matariki Apr 2013 #323

"Mens rights" is kind of like "white pride" The Link Apr 2013 #324

They didn't always use to be this way... Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #335

They're also making inroads in the atheist community. redqueen Apr 2013 #339

The atheists would do well in my opinion to distance themselves Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #340

That's food for thought. Jamastiene Apr 2013 #338

what is ironic is that outside of posts criticising them at du arely staircase Apr 2013 #352

MRAs are the gooniest motherfuckers on the face of the earth. Arkana Apr 2013 #358

Lol so true Dash87 Apr 2013 #364

I Seemed to have Missed it Macoy51 Apr 2013 #360

Those issues are out of feminist scope, Dash87 Apr 2013 #365

Out of Scope is Fine Macoy51 Apr 2013 #370

Who is saying that Feminists are allied to the MRA? Squinch Apr 2013 #383

MRA's are nearly as tough to swallow as MRE's. KamaAina Apr 2013 #371

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The Reddit MRA forum is a joke. Dash87 Apr 2013 #387

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Just to be clear, I wasn't dismissing it.. I was just trying to warn you about some of our more.. opiate69 Apr 2013 #393

I was about to tell you, every word you typed was about to be dismissed because of "REDDIT!!!!" opiate69 Apr 2013 #388

Women rape and commit as much domestic violence as men? BainsBane Apr 2013 #394

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