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Spitfire of ATJ

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182. As I said, BECAUSE Republicans turned this into a wedge issue.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 11:11 AM
Mar 2013

We don't have votes based on what the People want.

We have votes based on what Republicans want.

There'll most likely be a vote on the ban via an amendment to the bill, see article on link below Tx4obama Mar 2013 #1
"modeled after military assault weapons" krispos42 Mar 2013 #12
How else should the ban be defined? BainsBane Mar 2013 #49
how about not even banning them? bossy22 Mar 2013 #51
How would that have stopped Adam Lanza? Fawke Em Mar 2013 #53
it wouldn't have bossy22 Mar 2013 #59
Magazine limitation would have saved a lot of children... JoeBlowToo Mar 2013 #154
Yes! Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2013 #178
How long do you think it takes to swap out a magazine? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #200
How many times did you think Lanza practiced doing that exact thing? Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #211
+1. Crickets FSogol Mar 2013 #216
Crickets? See below, post #249. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #256
Which of the last few massacre killers were professionally trained shooters? FSogol Mar 2013 #266
Ten minutes training is all it takes for fast reloads. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #372
I call bullshit. Any skill takes time to learn. n/t FSogol Mar 2013 #377
It doesn't take any skill to reload. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #380
Then you would wrong. I am very proficient with firearms. FSogol Mar 2013 #381
I doubt that you have any proficiency with guns. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #397
Since I don't define everything as guns or gun-love, let me give you a non-gun (gasp!) example FSogol Mar 2013 #399
That's why guns are designed to be easy to reload. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #402
About ten minutes of practice is all it takes. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #249
"Can you walk and chew gum and dial your phone at the same time?" Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #267
How will limiting magazine capacity slow down the reload time? GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #373
coroner said he reloaded freely many times. didn't even fully empty the mags. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #311
I absolutely agree with you but RVN VET Mar 2013 #354
How many magazines do you think someone can easily carry? jeff47 Mar 2013 #260
At least 8 or 10 in a commercially available tactical vest hack89 Mar 2013 #269
And if they were so effective jeff47 Mar 2013 #285
ILBE and MOLLE gear can certainly carry that many mags hack89 Mar 2013 #291
That's why I was careful to not say it never can carry that much. jeff47 Mar 2013 #292
The military is concerned with additional issues such as AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #314
So much better that Lanza would have been able to get off 80 bullets instead of 200 some, right? NT EOTE Mar 2013 #286
I support limits on magazine size hack89 Mar 2013 #287
Just making sure your words aren't misconstrued. nt EOTE Mar 2013 #288
The VT killer had at least 18 magazines. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #374
About as long as it takes a child to die /nt demwing Mar 2013 #328
what makes it lethal BainsBane Mar 2013 #57
he probably would have been able to kill as many bossy22 Mar 2013 #62
He "probably would have been able to" BainsBane Mar 2013 #69
but the essential question is why is the AR-15 the weapon of choice? bossy22 Mar 2013 #76
Here in NJ you pay more to insure a red car. Walk away Mar 2013 #159
Yes! shenmue Mar 2013 #173
Begs the question, AR's arent the weapon of choice. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #344
Handguns are the weapon of choice for mass shootings by a large margin. hack89 Mar 2013 #163
I'm old enough to remember when banning hand guns was a goal... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #174
Gun control advocates made a huge mistake in 1994 hack89 Mar 2013 #184
They're failing on the public opinion battle.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #190
Balanced against that is the understanding that gun violence is at historic lows hack89 Mar 2013 #195
No, most people see these events are not "rare".... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #201
So why is gun control failing in such a spectacular fashion? hack89 Mar 2013 #205
Next thing you will say is Congress has a high approval rating. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #221
No - they deserve their lowly status hack89 Mar 2013 #225
The NRA doesn't NEED to raise funds. It's got the gun makers behind it.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #231
So just how much cash are we talking about? hack89 Mar 2013 #236
$11.7 billion in sales and $993 million in profits. LanternWaste Mar 2013 #247
And how much to the NRA? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #248
LOL!!! Guns and ammo are one of our major exports!!! Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #259
So give me a number. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #262
42. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #300
Thanks. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #301
Because you have bought-and-paid for by the NRA legislators ignoring overwhelming public opinion. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #227
So where is the progressive counterpart to the NRA? hack89 Mar 2013 #234
Tens of millions of dollars from arms manufacturers to fund their political arm make the difference. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #240
Emily's List alone has raised nearly 100 million dollars since 1985 hack89 Mar 2013 #245
Gun Control JohnnyBoots Mar 2013 #261
It kills me how gun controllers embrace Bloomberg. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #263
What crap. Sheldon Adelson gave $100M in 2012 alone. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #338
So after the first billion dollar campaign where the Dems out spent the repukes hack89 Mar 2013 #342
Way to deflect my points by just raising new bullshit. No, Repukes outspent Dems in 2012. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #360
A perfect world hack89 Mar 2013 #365
Sigh. You don't deny anything I said, you just repeat talking points. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #371
And universal background checks will now most likely pass the Congress hack89 Mar 2013 #375
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Mar 2013 #339
"...running around the woods playing army." Jenoch Mar 2013 #329
I'm a gun owner, but I'm sane. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #330
Numerous rampage killers have used pistols only. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #206
Dear BainsBane, tblue Mar 2013 #239
Have you seen this BainsBane Mar 2013 #275
"There is a reason the AR-15 is the weapon of choice for rampage killers." Jenoch Mar 2013 #312
There is a connection between magazine capacity and number of deaths in mass shootings ThoughtCriminal Mar 2013 #356
Then why put a pistol grip on a sawwed off shotgun? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #99
because it makes it more comfortable to hold in certain positions. bossy22 Mar 2013 #106
oh really VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #124
They cut the stock off for concealment. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #218
Until we make them criminals for owning illegal guns! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #392
heaven forfend anything should interfere with one's shootin' comfort. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #139
Guns that are more comfortable to shoot are also more accurate. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #398
Oh, no, no one ever gets snarky in a gun thread. But I'm glad safety is a concern. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #400
Like this krispos42 Mar 2013 #70
How about some of the hand guns? BainsBane Mar 2013 #75
there is no lethality difference between bossy22 Mar 2013 #78
Hand guns can also be "assault weapons"; krispos42 Mar 2013 #107
Three characteristics jmowreader Mar 2013 #141
that includes a lot of hunting and/or sporting rifles BainsBane Mar 2013 #280
Hunting and/or sporting rifles can be redesigned to not have detachable magazines jmowreader Mar 2013 #355
Don't Most Weapons Today Have Semiautomatic Action? DallasNE Mar 2013 #384
Exactly, she proposed feel-good nonsense designed to pander to the uninformed Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #64
bravo sir!! bossy22 Mar 2013 #67
Thanks nt Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #73
I Understand The Sentiment DallasNE Mar 2013 #385
Capitulation is a huge word my friend Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #390
We Actually Agree On Most Things DallasNE Mar 2013 #395
I don't have a problem with this.... Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #396
Both The AR-15 And High Capacity Magazine DallasNE Mar 2013 #91
no they weren't bossy22 Mar 2013 #97
AR-15s were not banned krispos42 Mar 2013 #117
You're Splitting Hairs Here DallasNE Mar 2013 #140
AR-15 style rifles were perfectly legal under the AWB hack89 Mar 2013 #169
The Newtown shooter's gun would have been legal under the AWB hack89 Mar 2013 #165
That Is A Stupid Argument DallasNE Mar 2013 #252
"I did think we ought to extend the assault weapons ban..." GW Bush 2004 hack89 Mar 2013 #258
The Full Context, Including The "But The Best Way" DallasNE Mar 2013 #343
Congress did not give him a bill to sign. hack89 Mar 2013 #345
Quite Well; You Obviously Don't Though DallasNE Mar 2013 #357
Congress could have originated the bill. hack89 Mar 2013 #364
A renewed AWB never reached Bush's desk. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #376
Yeah, let's not ban anything unless the single ban makes Progressive dog Mar 2013 #162
If the AWB is a "small" step in the right direction, what would you recommend as a final goal? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #167
One step at a time Progressive dog Mar 2013 #176
So you don't recommend any restrictions beyond an AWB? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #189
Well, "playing war" and hunting are by and large the same sir pball Mar 2013 #191
No they're not, you are confusing wants and needs Progressive dog Mar 2013 #194
What? That makes no sense. sir pball Mar 2013 #199
Humanely kill the deer makes no sense Progressive dog Mar 2013 #203
Umm...you're babbling, dude. Are you anti-hunting? sir pball Mar 2013 #207
Why don't you look up the definition of humane? nt Progressive dog Mar 2013 #209
Yeah yeah, "humane" would be to not hunt sir pball Mar 2013 #210
How do your title and text connect? Progressive dog Mar 2013 #226
Oy vey.. sir pball Mar 2013 #232
Asked and answered Progressive dog Mar 2013 #271
I suppose if you call hunting as a whole a "want" sir pball Mar 2013 #282
You can suppose whatever you want Progressive dog Mar 2013 #289
You did pretty clearly say sir pball Mar 2013 #406
Look krispos42 Mar 2013 #237
My side is not a lockstep organization Progressive dog Mar 2013 #253
Then why are you being rude to me? krispos42 Mar 2013 #264
As I said, I believe that the AWB is a minimal step Progressive dog Mar 2013 #276
A minimal step towards...what? krispos42 Mar 2013 #361
this background check thing doesn't address the full problem Progressive dog Mar 2013 #362
And.... we've hit the wall. krispos42 Mar 2013 #391
That is a pretty poor argument Progressive dog Mar 2013 #401
That's not the point I was trying to make krispos42 Mar 2013 #403
Yes it was, or maybe you just like pictures of guns Progressive dog Mar 2013 #405
Like I said, we've hit a wall. krispos42 Mar 2013 #407
You choose to not get it. RC Mar 2013 #168
I freely admit I don't "get" your argument. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #170
You do not see the testosterone dripping from the top picture? RC Mar 2013 #177
Nope. I see the following features: Peter cotton Mar 2013 #187
I see lots of testosterone... nikto Mar 2013 #367
Do you really expect anyone to believe that? RC Mar 2013 #368
They aren't "functionally identical".... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #181
Incorrect. They both accept identical magazines. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #183
Your pictures don't show that.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #198
I'll edit the post to make it clearer, if that helps. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #208
LOL!!! Because you declared victory does that mean it's over? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #215
Hm... I notice you didn't actually answer my questions or address the points in my last post. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #224
If they're so much the same, why get into a lather over the loss of one of them? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #228
You *still* haven't answered the questions. Let's try again, shall we? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #244
I have a question for you... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #255
Why are you trying so hard to avoid answering my questions? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #273
I already DID.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #274
I wasn't part of that sub-thread. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #283
As far as I'm concerned the whole issue is washed down.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #284
Machine guns aren't banned, it's legal to possess them. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #294
How about putting the same restrictions on assault weapons? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #305
It's been proposed. There were rumors that the 2013 AWB was going to do just that. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #309
There aren't "tens of millions" of assault weapons out there.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #315
You're right, there are MANY tens of millions. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #318
This may shock you but a LOT of those purchases,... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #324
still guns in circulation that could be, at any time AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #325
It's not a hopeless cause to get them off the streets.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #327
Almost a million ARs a year are sold. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #331
So they're better but some features are the same Progressive dog Mar 2013 #297
The two rifles shown are, in practical terms, identical. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #298
But you like one better, I see Progressive dog Mar 2013 #304
Actually, I like them both. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #307
so now you get to redefine identical Progressive dog Mar 2013 #317
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #333
Are you being deliberately deceptive Progressive dog Mar 2013 #335
They are identical rifles underneath the furnishings. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #186
Uh huh,...like that's an argument. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #212
Same bullet, same rate of fire, same magazine size hack89 Mar 2013 #214
Fine, ban both... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #219
Better tell Feinstein before it is too late. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #222
You just can't accept that the two are NOT "the same". Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #223
They are just as lethal hack89 Mar 2013 #229
That's because the assault weapon is the choice of crazy people. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #235
Actually hand guns are the weapon of choice of mass shooters hack89 Mar 2013 #241
So we should do nothing. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #246
You could face reality and at least propose laws that solve the problem hack89 Mar 2013 #251
Yeah, ban handguns too. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #257
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #299
At least that would make sense SpartanDem Mar 2013 #265
A massive buyback would be cool too.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #268
Machine guns aren't banned, but they are taxed at purchase. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #378
"Not that many people want full-auto guns." Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #379
The "cosmetic" argument always looses me. baldguy Mar 2013 #213
Banning all semiautomatic weapons, rifles and handguns, would be the only workable solution nt hack89 Mar 2013 #217
OK then. What would your steps be to get there? baldguy Mar 2013 #230
Exactly. None of these dudes would buy one if it was pink. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #197
Not my cup of tea, but to each their own, I say. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #220
Not pink enough. And thanks for proving my point. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #254
How about this one? Peter cotton Mar 2013 #270
Perfect. Except instead of Hello Kitty, each stock should bear the picture of a Newtown victim. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #272
+1 mwrguy Mar 2013 #319
And you think taking away protruding pistol grips will take away this "biggest problem"? krispos42 Mar 2013 #243
What can you call Reid's move? delrem Mar 2013 #295
I'm sending this to my dear cousin Diego in FLA. louis c Mar 2013 #341
It's Over SoCalMusicLover Mar 2013 #386
Oh those precious babies! Tears! freshwest Mar 2013 #2
Exactly. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #135
What the hell else matters? tblue Mar 2013 #242
Yes, those kids were expendable, no tears needed... JoeBlowToo Mar 2013 #155
How do you ask a child to be the last casualty mindwalker_i Mar 2013 #3
all so that paranoid cowards can feel secure Skittles Mar 2013 #4
I'll say it. I fucking hate the gun nuts in this country. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #5
+1,000 n/t KT2000 Mar 2013 #63
+1001 forestpath Mar 2013 #120
I'll say it, too. Brainstormy Mar 2013 #192
Thank you ellie Mar 2013 #233
+1 valerief Mar 2013 #279
Effective marions ghost Mar 2013 #6
The Shame is on us, sheshe2 Mar 2013 #7
+1000 TDale313 Mar 2013 #29
I don't think I have been reminded of the atrocity so abruptly... defacto7 Mar 2013 #54
Not me. I'm no gungeoneer. nt valerief Mar 2013 #281
the wants and needs of the NRA trumps the american people. spanone Mar 2013 #8
Its actually the needs of the gun manufacturers... jerseyjack Mar 2013 #10
who promote the sick minded, defacto7 Mar 2013 #61
NRA = gun manufacturers spanone Mar 2013 #160
The big bad NRA has only 5 million members. Your problem is not the NRA ... spin Mar 2013 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Mar 2013 #74
they want to be able to protect themselves if they are assaulted or home broken into VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #103
I currently live in an urban environment. ... spin Mar 2013 #179
Thank you for your reasonable response! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #393
Thank you back! (n/t) spin Mar 2013 #394
You make too many assumptions HockeyMom Mar 2013 #250
You personally dislike some firearms but not all women married to gun owners do. ... spin Mar 2013 #332
Well, I am a gun violence survivor HockeyMom Mar 2013 #340
I have watched a person die from a gun shot. ... spin Mar 2013 #349
My husband's guns are all in a combination safe HockeyMom Mar 2013 #350
That is and should your decision to make. spin Mar 2013 #358
I will take my chances with whatever is around me, HockeyMom Mar 2013 #388
I hope you never have to face an intruder in your home or are attacked on the street ... spin Mar 2013 #389
Our national politics, always getting in the way BeyondGeography Mar 2013 #9
I have never seen all their faces - hope the cover has impact lunasun Mar 2013 #11
But on the upside think of the thousands of guns sold fearing a gun grab. NightWatcher Mar 2013 #13
what does this tell us? tiny elvis Mar 2013 #84
The NRA is "Too Big To Topple." blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #14
I'm sorry, but using those kids as stage props for an agenda... Skip Intro Mar 2013 #15
Wow. Can't stand the sight of smiling children. aquart Mar 2013 #17
It's the last hurrah for a sick ploy that failed. Skip Intro Mar 2013 #20
Got no problem with it. aquart Mar 2013 #22
Why do you call my views a talking point? Skip Intro Mar 2013 #25
when it comes to guns bossy22 Mar 2013 #31
Flashy name? HangOnKids Mar 2013 #77
yes, really bossy22 Mar 2013 #80
Blah blah blah HangOnKids Mar 2013 #82
so sticking your fingers in your ears? bossy22 Mar 2013 #83
Please logic? HangOnKids Mar 2013 #86
my point is an AWB would do nothing bossy22 Mar 2013 #88
Did I Mention An AWB Ban? HangOnKids Mar 2013 #89
my apologies, you didn't bossy22 Mar 2013 #95
Great post. The gun control argument is incredibly emotional and irrational for many IndyPragmatist123 Mar 2013 #144
No idea, but I thank you for your concern. aquart Mar 2013 #121
Like That Sick And Shameless Ploy Civil Rights Workers Pulled At The Edmund Pettis Bridge In 1965 WillyT Mar 2013 #46
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #85
do you support "stop and frisk" policies? bossy22 Mar 2013 #87
That's nice. n/t. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #94
so you are saying you support such policies? bossy22 Mar 2013 #96
That's nice. n/t. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #100
I can't believe your above post was hidden. SunSeeker Mar 2013 #296
Seems to me, both Adam Lanza and now you are using them as props... Thor_MN Mar 2013 #150
It's sickening to allow them to be murdered, and do nothing. baldguy Mar 2013 #18
+1000% nt mimi85 Mar 2013 #21
You make a lot of assumptions. I think mine are more realistic: Skip Intro Mar 2013 #24
I know what you're saying: "Out of sight, out of mind." baldguy Mar 2013 #44
... La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #39
9/11 wasn't related to most it was used for (war in iraq for instance) La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #30
Do you feel the same way about anti-abortion wackos... LAGC Mar 2013 #34
the abortions they do show (the partial births or DNX) are also a form of false advertising. La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #37
Oh okay. LAGC Mar 2013 #79
nope, what they have now is powerful enough. blood and gore makes us feel disgust La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #101
I agree. LAGC Mar 2013 #104
that's no reason to not have any roadblocks at all. La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2013 #105
oh you mean like that guy in China who stabbed and killed all those kids right? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #110
Funny though VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #109
A mother's got to do what a mother's got to do. LAGC Mar 2013 #111
As a matter of fact....yeah they do! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #114
You probably wouldn't have liked the image of that screaming VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #115
I think this photo was much more effective at changing minds: LAGC Mar 2013 #351
the point was a child.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #359
We have a different interpretation. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #132
Shame on you. You and your NRA pals have blood on your hands and are the problem. morningfog Mar 2013 #147
You think that's sickening? Maybe it's because you're looking at the "before" photos. Ganja Ninja Mar 2013 #152
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2013 #16
K&R ReRe Mar 2013 #19
can you define what a "weapon of war" is? bossy22 Mar 2013 #27
Answer: Assault weapons ReRe Mar 2013 #35
So this isn't a "weapon of war"? bossy22 Mar 2013 #38
Would you mind removing that filth from this thread? ReRe Mar 2013 #42
what filth? bossy22 Mar 2013 #47
No further comment to the likes of you. Good luck. n/t ReRe Mar 2013 #48
if the facts don't fit your belief just ignore them bossy22 Mar 2013 #50
assuming you do not know how you look tiny elvis Mar 2013 #93
it depends on the context bossy22 Mar 2013 #102
allowed to hide from what? weird obsessive digression? tiny elvis Mar 2013 #118
so you'd respond to pictures of 9-11 victims by posting pictures of box cutters and airplanes, then? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #137
Right... "just ignore them". Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #136
That's the ugly mentality we face in this fight against the evil that is the "RKBA" movement: apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #65
Really. I thought we had dealt with the likes of it.... ReRe Mar 2013 #90
Spot-on post - wish we could recommend individual replies. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #98
Realize that the majority of gun owners have been horrified by the recent massacres ... spin Mar 2013 #387
because it compensates for their other "short-comings" VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #112
Gun porn. baldguy Mar 2013 #92
Nice timing! Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #133
Another pro gun progressive covering the NRA talking point 3: "get technical and derail the debate" Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #146
Bingo. nt SunSeeker Mar 2013 #306
To clarify a few points. RC Mar 2013 #175
Let me give you an answer you won't like. Ganja Ninja Mar 2013 #158
Most of those are at least consistent and not cosmetic/"feelgood" sir pball Mar 2013 #193
and good riddance too bossy22 Mar 2013 #23
I can think of allot of farces... ReRe Mar 2013 #40
no i have not, I'm quite on track bossy22 Mar 2013 #45
seems to have slowed them down in Australia though huh? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #113
double take on your header tiny elvis Mar 2013 #119
It would significantly impede future gun sales because these guns are what excite gun "enthusiasts " Hoyt Mar 2013 #122
Republicans are heartless... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #26
Republicans? There are not enough Dem votes in the Senate. hack89 Mar 2013 #166
Please include a list of the Republicans voting for the AWB..... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #171
There are 13 Dem Senators not voting for the AWB hack89 Mar 2013 #180
As I said, BECAUSE Republicans turned this into a wedge issue. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #182
You don't think that Dems from conservative pro-gun states hack89 Mar 2013 #185
They just had a study that shows their constituents are more Liberal than they think. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #238
Sickening! Milliesmom Mar 2013 #28
If only... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #32
Looking at those faces is almost too much for me LittleBlue Mar 2013 #33
I cannot stop thinking about the one little girl who survived VanillaRhapsody Mar 2013 #116
Amazing considering that's a RW paper BainsBane Mar 2013 #36
it's not RW bossy22 Mar 2013 #41
Yeah but RW laundry_queen Mar 2013 #56
that's a NY paper BainsBane Mar 2013 #58
I won't deny Murdoch is a raving lunatic laundry_queen Mar 2013 #66
okay, but I don't see how that's relevant BainsBane Mar 2013 #71
You were the one who brought it up laundry_queen Mar 2013 #81
actually another poster pointed out BainsBane Mar 2013 #127
Not Murdoch paper JBK Mar 2013 #123
ok, I got it confused with the post BainsBane Mar 2013 #126
We failed them, we let them down. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #43
Kick, Rec. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #52
Michael Moore on CNN Milliesmom Mar 2013 #60
I hope more papers do the same thing dsc Mar 2013 #68
We can't enact now what we enacted 19 years ago? We're moving backwards. reformist2 Mar 2013 #72
Because we don't want a repeat of what happened 19 years ago. Yukari Yakumo Mar 2013 #353
something about RWers and repuke supporters wailing about OUR collective shame BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #108
Seconded!! n/t Euphoria Mar 2013 #142
Thanks!! The issue of message manipulation that the RW does is a real hot button for me. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #204
Thought this was a pic of Iraq civilians at first The Straight Story Mar 2013 #125
Big round of applause for those who value gun's rights over peoples' rights Scootaloo Mar 2013 #128
NO!!! I say shame on Congress showing their gutless lack of backbone still_one Mar 2013 #129
Who let the keys loose to the Gungeon? DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #130
No shit. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #138
And even in this thread Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #131
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #148
So, the ongoing discussion of public policy/law around firearms is a 'moment of silence'? AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #278
The article and the post Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #302
it was posted without comment. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #310
The OP obviously felt that comment wasn't needed. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #313
more bs. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #316
Well, because I don't find it necessary Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #320
How convenient to single out only one side of this discussion for behavior, AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #321
For the last time, Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #322
It is sad that i have to spell out, your observation upthread is precisely AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #323
My observation and response Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #326
You might reflect on why you imagine that I 'worship' anything, let alone firearms. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #336
There is only one answer- The Mayors Against Guns. The Great Equalizer graham4anything Mar 2013 #134
the pledge of alliegence riverbendviewgal Mar 2013 #143
Heartbreaking and shameful. RiffRandell Mar 2013 #145
I'll say it again - show the before and after pictures CincyDem Mar 2013 #149
US makes wars. US makes weapons for wars. Weapons for us and weapons for anyone else. valerief Mar 2013 #151
K&R demmiblue Mar 2013 #153
Shame indeed malaise Mar 2013 #156
We need to provide cover from the NRA for politicians like H. Reid Evergreen Emerald Mar 2013 #157
Don't you mean Nevada voters? sir pball Mar 2013 #196
K&R. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #161
Does this bother you or not libdude Mar 2013 #164
Funny thing, I'd take semis under the NFA (full-auto-regulations) sir pball Mar 2013 #202
Me too, with the NFA registry opened and a prohibition against states enacting their own laws. slackmaster Mar 2013 #348
Give me nationwide CCW and you can have them all.. sir pball Mar 2013 #352
Oh snap, they made sense for once shenmue Mar 2013 #172
Shame on the Republican Party & Cronies Berlum Mar 2013 #188
K&R Who didn't see this coming MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #277
Wait'll someone leaks the crime scene photos KamaAina Mar 2013 #290
Says it all. K&R Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #293
That ought to sell a few newspapers slackmaster Mar 2013 #303
The "assault weapons" ban should be dead. gcomeau Mar 2013 #308
535 copies should be delivered to Congress liberal N proud Mar 2013 #334
I posted this last night on FB wvufan1988 Mar 2013 #337
:( Fire Walk With Me Mar 2013 #346
Love for guns befuddles me. I'll never understand it. lexw Mar 2013 #347
But...these guns are kinda' nice... nikto Mar 2013 #369
Agreed. :) lexw Mar 2013 #382
With all apologies.... SCVDem Mar 2013 #363
We just have to respect the understandible fear some gun enthusiasts have... nikto Mar 2013 #366
Could this be... nikto Mar 2013 #370
k&r for the truth. Shame, indeed! Laelth Mar 2013 #383
Not in Colorado, it isn't. backscatter712 Mar 2013 #404
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