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juajen

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92. A great many of them were in denial.

Reply to OldDem2012 (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 20, 2013, 07:44 AM

Mar 2013

I have relatives and friends who were plenty smart, who just refused to admit they were being or had been duped.

If they admitted the truth, it would make them look stupid. This still goes on today, when they certainly know better. Sad, really.

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My list of DUers who believed in the justifications for the Iraq invasion: [View all] Robb Mar 2013 OP

I Regret Nothing! nt onehandle Mar 2013 #1

No regrets either. Bush = Lies. (dial-up warning, pic) freshwest Mar 2013 #21

looks like the list of smart things done by Dubya treestar Mar 2013 #2

Rimshot!!! Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2013 #3

We marched, we protested, we contributed to stop the obvious fraud. Faygo Kid Mar 2013 #4

See, all you needed was a tricorner hat, a rascal, a "KEEP YUR GURBMINT HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE" sign Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #6

and we were told we were not being patriotic AND Phentex Mar 2013 #7

I remember sitting in my hotel room in DC, intheflow Mar 2013 #76

I remember being flabbergasted at the brazenness of the bullshit. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #5

My biggest issue was not the lying bs being shoveled at a rapid rate from the Bush Administration... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #10

You SHOULD have been alarmed that the "checks and balances" failed.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #30

Not the first time it's happened...for example, the Tonkin Gulf "Incident" and the sinking of.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #63

True. Frankly I'm surprised we didn't escalate the drug war,.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #64

The checks and balances meanit Mar 2013 #65

All that talk of underground labs... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #72

You may not bet far off with the movie propaganda according to this: midnight Mar 2013 #116

That made her out to be G.I. Jane out there.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #117

Propaganda she was pressed to uphold until she and Tillman's brother held a press midnight Mar 2013 #128

A great many of them were in denial. juajen Mar 2013 #92

I think many of us felt/feel that way. Spartacus Maximus XL Mar 2013 #119

I love Diane Rehm BainsBane Mar 2013 #126

Yep. You didn't even need a lot of information-- many of their arguments were plain Marr Mar 2013 #19

Was it the 2003 SOTU speech that had the "yellowcake" line? It was known to be a lie AT THE TIME. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #20

Sounds right. I remember all the bellyaching about Iraq having "thrown out the inspectors", even as Marr Mar 2013 #23

My personal favorite, however, remains, 'prove that you DON'T have WMD, or we will invade'. Marr Mar 2013 #25

My favorite was the summit at the Azores.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #33

Not to nit pick but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #49

I had a crash course in the whole thing several years back for a variety of work reasons Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #50

441 that RCA preferred is close to 420. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #58

what's amazing to me is that we put up with it for so long. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #61

I still have a couple CRT TVs discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #69

Man, those things are heavy, too, huh? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #85

Moving a full size CRT TV is a job for a squad... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #98

I remember being totally disillusioned about "authorization." joshcryer Mar 2013 #28

Early 2002, I remember being like "Iraq? Where'd they get Iraq from? We can't attack Iraq. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #87

Thanks. Wasn't here then, elleng Mar 2013 #8

I think that's why the majority of us found our way here: babylonsister Mar 2013 #9

I agree. DU and Air America helped me keep what little sanity I have. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #26

The early days of the war in Iraq Ilsa Mar 2013 #45

same here. I was checking the tubes even before * got into office BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2013 #80

shit..that's also the list of positive attributes of all of the GOP pres wannabees last 2 elections! NRaleighLiberal Mar 2013 #11

I'm thinking back to some of the friendships lost... WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2013 #12

Yep, why doesn't being right feel better? Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #35

Yes! babylonsister Mar 2013 #38

I know. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2013 #40

I Marched in NYC in the Snow to Protest The Iraq Invasion Yavin4 Mar 2013 #13

We did it ALL OVER AMERICA...and the Media Reporting..DOA.. KoKo Mar 2013 #55

Yes, KoKo, and I am one. The South has plenty of liberals, we just juajen Mar 2013 #93

Hey, I was there Yavin. It was Nasty Cold that Feb 15, 2003 Day Cha Mar 2013 #115

NOT fit to print: elleng Mar 2013 #14

Ah, yes, the duct tape. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2013 #44

10 years ago tonight I lit candles in my windows in Dallas DemoTex Mar 2013 #15

Accurate depiction of the WMD that was found, too. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #16

Damn straight. ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #17

Maybe some of the SF October 2003 marchers will remember the little elderly couple in their coats... Tikki Mar 2013 #18

10 years ago today, a group of us gathered in mourning, as "shock and awe" blazed across the niyad Mar 2013 #22

A pic of me at the 2005 Seattle Anti-Iraq War rally: Aristus Mar 2013 #24

We didn't need proof, Aristus. babylonsister Mar 2013 #27

It's crazy isn't it? The same people who are howling imprecations against "gubmint" now Aristus Mar 2013 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author HiPointDem Mar 2013 #60

At that time one of the only places to find sanity and healthy skepticism marions ghost Mar 2013 #31

Wasn’t a DU member then, In fact didn’t own a computer... busterbrown Mar 2013 #41

I remember -- Never Forget -- it was like a cult marions ghost Mar 2013 #42

Are you kidding? Most are still asleep. Musn't admit we were wrong. juajen Mar 2013 #94

I'm talking about marions ghost Mar 2013 #95

Alright ..who the hell is this piece-of-scum DUer named "Whitescreen" BlueJazz Mar 2013 #32

Here is what I wrote on my old Blog on March 9, 2003, 10 days before war stevenleser Mar 2013 #34

There were a lot of people who didn't fall for the bullshit. Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #36

Oh heck, that photo must be CROPPED to make it look like the crowd is bigger than it actually IS! TrollBuster9090 Mar 2013 #43

LOL. Yep, I'm a genius with photoshop. Curmudgeoness Mar 2013 #47

The toppling of Saddam drew a big crowd... Life Long Dem Mar 2013 #62

I was not yet a member of DU, but I was here... ReRe Mar 2013 #37

The build up to the Iraq war... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #39

Fewer here than the Democratic Senators who backed Bush's war(s). Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #46

And here's the list of 21 of 50 Senate Democrats who did not believed in the justifications: AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #48

I think you should add Senator Lincoln Chafee to the list, the only republican senator who voted idwiyo Mar 2013 #52

I agree that former Sen Chafee's name should be noted. Since he is a Republican, his name is AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #66

My bad, missed it at first reading. Sorry. idwiyo Mar 2013 #68

I remember writing Kerry PuraVidaDreamin Mar 2013 #51

OMG...the letters I wrote followed by replies that made me wonder KoKo Mar 2013 #59

Whereas Kennedy saw right through the BS Fearless Mar 2013 #67

He was a treasure PuraVidaDreamin Mar 2013 #73

And Kennedy and Warren respect Kerry politicasista Mar 2013 #79

No one is hating Kerry Fearless Mar 2013 #124

It sounds like everyone does n/t politicasista Mar 2013 #125

And he could see through people still hating on Kerry politicasista Mar 2013 #82

No clue what you are talking about hating PuraVidaDreamin Mar 2013 #88

IMO, That's hating politicasista Mar 2013 #90

Nice that you know so much about me PuraVidaDreamin Mar 2013 #91

Ok n/t politicasista Mar 2013 #123

When Kerry followed through on his promise to oppose war if weapon inspections proved blm Mar 2013 #105

My list of DUers that took to the streets in mass to protest the Iraq invasion..... Hotler Mar 2013 #53

Glad to be exempted from that list Canuckistanian Mar 2013 #54

I bought it initially....BUT TommyCelt Mar 2013 #56

March 19, 2003, we were buried under 5 feet of snow. Denver got about 3 feet. mountain grammy Mar 2013 #57

Hey, my name's not on that list. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #70

Add me to that list. w4rma Mar 2013 #71

That's a long list! Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2013 #74

I turned my back on half of the people I knew that day. RagAss Mar 2013 #75

DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2013 #77

Waiting for Godot...... WCGreen Mar 2013 #78

As opposed to all the Congress people Rex Mar 2013 #81

Don't blame me, I voted for Kucinich. n/t flvegan Mar 2013 #83

I totally bought Powell's justifications. applegrove Mar 2013 #84

Don't want to interrupt the Dem bashing politicasista Mar 2013 #86

That one vote cost millions of lives. If ordinary people got it right without the sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #96

A lot of people believed that. joshcryer Mar 2013 #89

Hmm...grew up in a military family Rex Mar 2013 #120

I also had read the article in the Nation magazine about what Saddam did to those applegrove Mar 2013 #122

IMO Mr Dixon Mar 2013 #97

I recall March, 2003 . . FairWinds Mar 2013 #99

Our Govt Waged a Deliberate Prolonged Psy-Ops War Against Us and the World paparush Mar 2013 #100

If you read Knight-Ridder newspaper coverage at the time, you didn't believe the warmongers JPZenger Mar 2013 #101

There was at least one McClatchy paper sounding the alarm Rob H. Mar 2013 #108

McClatchey took over Knight-Ridder Washington Bureau JPZenger Mar 2013 #127

Excellent! Rob H. Mar 2013 #130

Many of us lost friends & had great difficulty with family. CrispyQ Mar 2013 #102

Remember this fact: Jeb Bush was a member the PNAC who are responsible for the tragedy. olegramps Mar 2013 #103

I wasn't a DUer until Oct of 2003 NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #104

that matches my list too. barbtries Mar 2013 #106

I was on the wrong side, but only for one reason, and only under certain criteria. AtheistCrusader Mar 2013 #107

What a relief! nt caseymoz Mar 2013 #109

Never a single word he have said has been true about GWB and IRaq Bohemianwriter Mar 2013 #110

Air America SCVDem Mar 2013 #111

Candidate for best post ever ;-) harun Mar 2013 #112

I was here then and didn't believe the lies. Still here, still know the truth. Avalux Mar 2013 #113

There was no justification. PNAC spelled it out. They wanted to LibDemAlways Mar 2013 #114

Can someone explain to me why we can't prosecute his ass, SmittynMo Mar 2013 #118

Because the polices of one administration should not be prosecuted by the new administration... midnight Mar 2013 #129

This is total bullshit SmittynMo Mar 2013 #131

Lies never die, and the truth gets exhausted fighting them. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #121