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life long demo

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82. Flames, flames, flames

Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:30 PM

Mar 2013

I know it's a few days after you posted your comment, I came back to read it again. I still feel the same insult. I am Catholic, I am Democratic, I am liberal. I have been all of those all my life, you can say I was born into it, it's in my genes. I'm 70, do you have a problem with me?

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If Catholics stopped being welcome in the Democratic Party, rightst fundies would soon go unchecked. [View all] Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 OP

DU is not the Democratic Party... MellowDem Mar 2013 #1

To parse your words just a bit Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #21

Not all the donnations go to the Pope, you have no idea what good Dragonfli Mar 2013 #29

Not at all... MellowDem Mar 2013 #47

It feels like a purge to Catholics here. n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #48

but Mellow, sooooo many DU'ers think this is the Demorcatis Party. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #51

I give to the RCC. musical_soul Mar 2013 #55

Flames, flames, flames life long demo Mar 2013 #82

If only true Christians were allowed in the Republican Party .... Coyotl Mar 2013 #2

Not that I agree with social conservativism. I don't..... musical_soul Mar 2013 #56

We shouldn't compromise on reproductive issues and marriage equality to appeal Catholics, though. sadbear Mar 2013 #3

I don't think liberal Catholics have asked for this or want this etherealtruth Mar 2013 #5

And no one has called for Catholics to leave the Democratic Party, and yet here is this OP Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #81

Of course not etherealtruth Mar 2013 #107

Breaking News! Catholics use birth control and have abortions. DevonRex Mar 2013 #11

I know they belong to another demographic, sadbear Mar 2013 #12

Not where I'm from. DevonRex Mar 2013 #13

Just curious. Another demographic? Italian? Irish? Mexican? DevonRex Mar 2013 #14

1st and 2nd generation Mexican-Americans. sadbear Mar 2013 #17

Many that vote have smaller families LeftInTX Mar 2013 #18

Ah, so you think Americans of Mexican descent all have 10 kids. DevonRex Mar 2013 #22

I never said 10 children. sadbear Mar 2013 #35

Though it has been politcally bastardized in a gambit to own SCOTUS more completely, Pro-Life patrice Mar 2013 #24

and we have never had to; most american catholics completely ignore that edic. arely staircase Mar 2013 #34

But seldom can disagreement be expressed without it degenerating into vilification. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #49

I have not heard one Catholic on DU EVER ask for compromise life long demo Mar 2013 #84

I'm not referring to Catholics on DU. sadbear Mar 2013 #91

What is this over wrought stuff? Catholics make up parts of both major parties. bluestate10 Mar 2013 #4

Clarence Thomas, Alito and Roberts are Catholic too lunasun Mar 2013 #8

I found your comment very surprising. I grew up in a very blue collar life long demo Mar 2013 #26

yes fundy like & not blue collar at all but republicans for sure -signs and bumper stickers say so lunasun Mar 2013 #36

And Joe Biden. musical_soul Mar 2013 #57

the entire RW majority on the SCOTUS are Catholic Progressive dog Mar 2013 #78

Where do you get the idea that White, Non-Latino Catholics mostly support Republicans? ieoeja Mar 2013 #41

The idea comes from the presidential exit polls for this century muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #46

I thought that's what atheists were for. Cleita Mar 2013 #6

We shouldnt pander to any one group for political purposes libtodeath Mar 2013 #7

I don't think it's anyone's business to tell a catholic which party to join. We don't need anyone's southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #9

Of course it isn't. Who suggests that it might be? Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #25

Well lets hope they will vote for the Dems because republicans are still riding the crazy train. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #33

I dunno: a couple of catholics I know left the democratic party anyway Populist_Prole Mar 2013 #10

The Catholics I know are very liberal and one of movonne Mar 2013 #16

Wish that were the case with my friends but it aint. Populist_Prole Mar 2013 #23

My mother often joins a prayer group filled with very progressive nuns Pullo Mar 2013 #30

Historically, there have been many courageously progressive thucythucy Mar 2013 #105

I am more worried about women leaving if we keep holding open doors for them The Straight Story Mar 2013 #15

!! Richardo Mar 2013 #32

I guess Catholics are reproducing without women. lol. musical_soul Mar 2013 #58

If you disagree with the Church why not just leave? ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #19

That works well for some. It is a real option for many Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #37

Leaving the Catholic Church is far easier than emigrating ButterflyBlood Mar 2013 #38

I agree with you on that for most Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #40

Christianity is full of horrific ideas too. DirkGently Mar 2013 #62

Hmm... onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #77

My point exactly. Which I guess you missed? DirkGently Mar 2013 #86

Yep onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #101

Happens to me too. DirkGently Mar 2013 #108

Speaking for myself... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #106

As many before me have posted etherealtruth Mar 2013 #20

If many Catholics truly believed the Church doctrine regarding a woman's right to choose, or gay still_one Mar 2013 #27

In the middle of the last century, the Democratic party took a stand. trotsky Mar 2013 #28

Agree, good post, trotsky! mountain grammy Mar 2013 #54

Hear hear Richardo Mar 2013 #31

A clarification to this OP Subject line Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #39

Sorry, not willing to compromise on pro-choice jeff47 Mar 2013 #42

It's not my religion, but that doesn't matter Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #43

The problem is the "Catholic people" have failed to do so. jeff47 Mar 2013 #44

The American people didn't stop George W. bush from invading Iraq or being re-installed after he did Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #45

The American people tried jeff47 Mar 2013 #50

First an observation Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #67

I can no more defend the position of others jeff47 Mar 2013 #97

OK I'm clearer on what you want. I have no problem with you advocationg for Catholics to... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #100

Tom, yours in the last comment I can read here life long demo Mar 2013 #87

You condemn Muslims, Mormons, Jews, Protestants, & Democrats equally, right? DirkGently Mar 2013 #60

The difference is what you do about that corruption jeff47 Mar 2013 #94

Except you have no idea who tithes or protests, do you? DirkGently Mar 2013 #109

Did you vote for Obama in 2008? Renew Deal Mar 2013 #52

Relevance? (nt) jeff47 Mar 2013 #93

You're obviously willing to compromise a little bit on "pro-gay rights." Renew Deal Mar 2013 #95

No, I explicitly told the people calling for donations that they wouldn't get any. jeff47 Mar 2013 #98

May I bring up an important point that I personally corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #53

How do you know this? progressoid Mar 2013 #61

Really? We should assume Catholic parents want their children raped? DirkGently Mar 2013 #63

Huh? progressoid Mar 2013 #64

Oh please. You demand proof Catholics whose children were the victims DirkGently Mar 2013 #66

No, progressoid Mar 2013 #71

You can't be serious! How about corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #65

Maybe I'm just not understanding your post... progressoid Mar 2013 #68

Catholic victims who remained inside the Church, and their families Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #69

Not what I'm asking. progressoid Mar 2013 #70

Some have, some haven't Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #73

The point I am trying to make, obviously unsuccessfully, corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #79

Yes. Catholics are the same or more liberal than most on many issues. DirkGently Mar 2013 #59

Good thing that's not happening. Orsino Mar 2013 #72

I actually agree with you Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #74

Yes. I think of rank-and-file Catholics... Orsino Mar 2013 #80

I can respect that stance, well stated. And now I think I will retire from this thread... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #92

And yet it does not bother you when the Pope says gay folks are the work of the devil? Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #83

I would appreciate it if you more carefully read what I have posted Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #88

It's weird that states with higher percentages of catholics also tend to be solid blue hughee99 Mar 2013 #75

all religions are equally vile, Catholicism just happens to be in the news because the new pope... bowens43 Mar 2013 #76

Why are religious people so incredibly sensitive? Zoeisright Mar 2013 #85

You make Baby Jesus cry. LAGC Mar 2013 #89

The vast majority of lay Catholics know and agree that far too often Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #90

That's ludicrous straw argument. People have gone way past that. DirkGently Mar 2013 #110

Catholics Dorian Gray Mar 2013 #96

I haven't seen anyone saying Catholics are not welcome Marrah_G Mar 2013 #99

I agree with your distinction and it is big. I haven't seen anyone say Cataholics are unwelcome Tom Rinaldo Mar 2013 #102

ENOUGH with the persecution complex... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #103

I wish those criticising the Catholic church would be more civil about it. DCBob Mar 2013 #104