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In reply to the discussion: If Catholics stopped being welcome in the Democratic Party, rightst fundies would soon go unchecked. [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)50. The American people tried
The fact that the media did not cover the anti-war protests doesn't mean such protests didn't happen. In addition, W barely won re-election. A "popular war president" should have crushed Kerry, not won by single digits.
But the big difference is people tried to change course.
The solution for Catholics seems to be to just ignore the parts they don't like without trying to change anything.
You should be able to see the difference between those two.
At the very least I think it wrong to presume that many Catholics who remain in the Church do not actively work toward social justice both inside and outside of their Church in ways that they feel able to.
So we should just assume they're doing something really, really, really quiet but also super-effective?
Bullshit.
There are millions of Catholics who pray for changes in the Catholic Church along lines you would likely favor. I'm not saying that is all they do,
Actually, you are. You're also saying they keep such prayers secret so nobody else will ever find out they actually give a damn about the church's problems.
I draw the line on presuming individual catholics are complicit with injustice if they do not leave that Church.
Phew! Good thing you destroyed that very dangerous strawman!
You'll note I never required them to leave the church. I required them to try to pressure the church. That pressure does not have to succeed.
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If Catholics stopped being welcome in the Democratic Party, rightst fundies would soon go unchecked. [View all]
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2013
OP
We shouldn't compromise on reproductive issues and marriage equality to appeal Catholics, though.
sadbear
Mar 2013
#3
And no one has called for Catholics to leave the Democratic Party, and yet here is this OP
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#81
Though it has been politcally bastardized in a gambit to own SCOTUS more completely, Pro-Life
patrice
Mar 2013
#24
and we have never had to; most american catholics completely ignore that edic.
arely staircase
Mar 2013
#34
But seldom can disagreement be expressed without it degenerating into vilification. n/t
Nuclear Unicorn
Mar 2013
#49
What is this over wrought stuff? Catholics make up parts of both major parties.
bluestate10
Mar 2013
#4
yes fundy like & not blue collar at all but republicans for sure -signs and bumper stickers say so
lunasun
Mar 2013
#36
Where do you get the idea that White, Non-Latino Catholics mostly support Republicans?
ieoeja
Mar 2013
#41
I don't think it's anyone's business to tell a catholic which party to join. We don't need anyone's
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2013
#9
Well lets hope they will vote for the Dems because republicans are still riding the crazy train.
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2013
#33
I am more worried about women leaving if we keep holding open doors for them
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#15
If many Catholics truly believed the Church doctrine regarding a woman's right to choose, or gay
still_one
Mar 2013
#27
The American people didn't stop George W. bush from invading Iraq or being re-installed after he did
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2013
#45
OK I'm clearer on what you want. I have no problem with you advocationg for Catholics to...
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2013
#100
You condemn Muslims, Mormons, Jews, Protestants, & Democrats equally, right?
DirkGently
Mar 2013
#60
No, I explicitly told the people calling for donations that they wouldn't get any.
jeff47
Mar 2013
#98
I can respect that stance, well stated. And now I think I will retire from this thread...
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2013
#92
And yet it does not bother you when the Pope says gay folks are the work of the devil?
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2013
#83
It's weird that states with higher percentages of catholics also tend to be solid blue
hughee99
Mar 2013
#75
all religions are equally vile, Catholicism just happens to be in the news because the new pope...
bowens43
Mar 2013
#76
I agree with your distinction and it is big. I haven't seen anyone say Cataholics are unwelcome
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2013
#102