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In reply to the discussion: "We Owe to Our Sons What We've Given Our Daughters" [View all]phylny
(8,368 posts)113. I reread my post and I don't believe I said anything like that.
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generally, physically also. it is a hoot in middle school watching the tall 5, 6, 7 grade girls
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#130
It helps if they can teach the kids how to sit instead of just expecting them to and then punishing
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#145
he has always been active. and he likes his down time. he was fun because he would read,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#162
this is my issue with this theory. education was no different 3, 4 decades ago when men were the
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#125
No, it isn't the test - it's the classroom structure that is a response to the test
gollygee
Mar 2013
#17
personally i think all of society is attacking our boys and without a lot of work in the home front,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#5
And yet these boys, when they come of age and are still boys...as presented, and I agree...
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#42
they are also pretty lonely, messed up, hurting themselves in many ways. it is not healthy.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#48
I work mostly with boys, since I'm a speech-language pathologist, and most of the kids with
phylny
Mar 2013
#110
so if a boy learns at a slower pace we should just force him to learn faster?
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#112
I think the reason my autistic son misbehaved was because he has always seen home as a sanctuary.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#202
Oh my good point. I had a young (5-6 yo) that wouldn't keep his hands off my equip last
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#120
Good for you for doing everything you think is right. However, you only raised girls
pnwmom
Mar 2013
#182
Girls who are good at math have a tough time of it. You will just have to trust me on that.
JDPriestly
Mar 2013
#80
are we allowed to have a discussion about the dysfunctionality of masculinity
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#10
Masculinity, just like Femininity, has been hijacked and defined by the Advertising Industry
Taverner
Mar 2013
#44
yup. jobs are changing, that requires staying in school longer and longer.
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#62
no. i hear that often. i hate it. we had no expectation and we did not direct. allowing activity
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#91
I think that many here are (sometimes not so) privately giddy about the failures of male children in
leeroysphitz
Mar 2013
#13
really? you think people here root for failure of young black boys in education?
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#20
I KNOW some do and no, I'm not going to call them out and no I wasn't lumping you in there. n/t
leeroysphitz
Mar 2013
#24
i drew the qualifier because the article focussed on black boys and so i did too. nt
La Lioness Priyanka
Mar 2013
#32
The problem is more acute among black boys, but not unique to them. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#34
seriously Jeff? Instead of whining about feminists, men could and should learn a lot!
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#81
I'm serious about what I said. It sounds as if you read something else. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#90
No. I feel like my kids are being attacked. I'm mostly indifferent to personal attacks.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#88
this conversation seems to be just like the one about benevolent sexism and the Pope
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#92
who would that be? i fight for my boys continually and for years have been putting up info
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#33
Fair enough, I'm semi-guilty. I'm not giddy, but I got no sympathy either since
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#43
It's a little harder to come to that conclusion when you have both a boy and girl as children.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#51
I have a boy and a girl, both grown now, but I do not find the same as you, both did just fine.
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#76
Oh, and don't forget, should your son and daughter happen to choose the same profession...
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#79
oh, my gosh you think I don't know that? You think she doesn't know that?
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#83
I get it, I'm just saying that certainly mitigates any sympathy I might otherwise have for
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#84
That's okay. I have enough sympathy for all of them. So do many others.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#86
leeroy, might want to take note. post after post of ours addressing the issue. thinking, listening
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#124
When I was 12 I started thinking school was stupid, I expected to be cannon fodder
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#39
2000 buscho masho'ism really projected this for our boys. middle school is where
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#50
from what i hear, the kids are certainly feeling their future is beyond their control for sure.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#61
they aren't alone. I think there is no debt crisis, but the ads on the Ed Show
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#67
As a teacher I would agrue that the problem goes to serious and important issues in education
jimlup
Mar 2013
#22
Not that many years ago, people were very concerned about the lag among girls.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#30
Exactly my point! And because teachers don't like normal little boy behavior, the get medicated.
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#98
Partly because of the suspicion heaped upon any man looking to work with kids.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#147
I have also heard of cases where the innocent sue and get the decisions reversed.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#152
I had a casual acquaintance who killed himself because of apparently unfounded allegations.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#154
gay people sometimes kill themselves too. That does not stop other from fighting.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#155
That is true. That does not mean they should allow others to tell them they can't teach
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#158
i have done a lot fo research on this, that is not true. it is what is being promoted, also paying
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#164
Could you name things that girls are in fact good and frankly much better at then boys?
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#36
I'm hoping he just means that boys and girls have different learning styles
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#41
hmmm. my kids are freshman and senior. lol. so not like i have been out of the middle school
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#65
I sometimes I forget that I'm not talking to colleagues who all know this data well...
jimlup
Mar 2013
#96
I think there are ways of addressing the problems without seperating the sexes
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#122
Single sex classrooms are not correllated with reduced academic performance among girls.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#126
i hear ya on that. and i found it interesting myself. i am all for what works.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#184
but think about this. this is so fuckin' interesting. i said in a post above that studies show boys
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#132
my autistic son had fewer and fewer tantrums the more he could verbalize how he felt
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#144
absolutely liberal. this is what i have found with the kids. it is always trying things out,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#169
because they have been working so hard to turn our boys into savages with huge wallets--
librechik
Mar 2013
#26
boys love of video games and parents focus on sports for their boys is a big part of the problem
Fresh_Start
Mar 2013
#37
boys can be active and visual learners without turning into over masculinized monsters
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#46
and i have two boys that must learn thru reading, not listening. we know our kids. we can give
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#54
I agree parents have to participate but it is hard when you have a special education
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#63
you child is the one being most lost in the cracks of the system that has been created.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#69
yeah it's not so much the teachers that I blame as the school administrations, the school boards,
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#70
I suppose the guy who deserves scruitiny is the author, Mark Sherman, PhD
HereSince1628
Mar 2013
#60
i agree. i had one child that was always ahead in the milestones. i had one that was always behind
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#135
One year out of college, female teachers earn 89 percent of what male teachers earn.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#136
wrong. the first year out.... many are not in coaching positions and if it were so obvious,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#168
bookmark for tomorrow. so tired, but i want to watch. thanks. luv this stuff. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#173
American education is in crisis. Most problems stem from lack of funding.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#115
evo... 3, 4 decades ago school was more structured. and yet, boys overwhelmingly graduated
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#138
dont even go there. i am not suggesting hitting a child. i will read your post in a bit
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#142
I've re-read that post 3 times, it sure sounds like that is the point she's trying to make.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#178
'what I know'.. heh. She regularly makes arguments about the 'decadent, worsening culture'
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#180
it is simply the truth. talking about the differences in the system then and now. not a whole lot
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#185
I expressed my opinion on part of what I think may be happening in an earlier thread.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#192
your opinion that my stating the paddle in the past means i advocate paddling. to the fact i do not
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#195
I acknowledged that. My use of "opinion" in the prior post was in regard to what I wrote in HoF
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2013
#196
thanks. believing their own PR. seemed to be the meme to say. regardless of only having men
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#191
having some college debt makes staying in college more likely for both men and women.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#187
We do? Then do something about the ancient American tradition of anti-intellectualism
eridani
Mar 2013
#188