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In reply to the discussion: Ohio 3rd graders who fail state test not promoted. But they CAN be promoted by not taking test. [View all]reteachinwi
(579 posts)53. When you are developing a new widget
you will test its performance. The results of the test will guide you in it's improvement. Check this out.
There is, however, someone who recognizes that the data is being misinterpreted.
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While the overall PISA rankings ignore such differences in the tested schools, when groupings based on the rate of free and reduced lunch are created, a direct relationship is established.
Free and Reduced Meal Rate
PISA Score
Schools with < 10%
551
Schools with 10-24.9%
527
Schools with 25-49.9%
502
Schools with 49.9-74.9%
471
Schools with >75%
446
U.S. average
500
OECD average
493
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While the overall PISA rankings ignore such differences in the tested schools, when groupings based on the rate of free and reduced lunch are created, a direct relationship is established.
Free and Reduced Meal Rate
PISA Score
Schools with < 10%
551
Schools with 10-24.9%
527
Schools with 25-49.9%
502
Schools with 49.9-74.9%
471
Schools with >75%
446
U.S. average
500
OECD average
493
http://nasspblogs.org/principaldifference/2010/12/pisa_its_poverty_not_stupid_1.html
There is lots of test data out there. A correlation can be found between child poverty and poor test scores. A correlation between a single teacher and poor test scores is very difficult to establish as education is a collaboration between educators, parents, administrators, school boards, and the whole community. Should we hold teachers responsible only, and not the rest of people who make a child's success possible? Should we hold teachers responsible for child poverty?
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Ohio 3rd graders who fail state test not promoted. But they CAN be promoted by not taking test. [View all]
madfloridian
Mar 2013
OP
Teachers are already evaluated several times a year. The reformers must love your words.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#14
That's a false accusation. Teachers ARE evaluated. Four times a year in my district.
proud2BlibKansan
Mar 2013
#30
"I don't of any profession where we just take their word for how good they are. "
proud2BlibKansan
Mar 2013
#62
And there are many mildly disabled children who don't do well on these tests.
proud2BlibKansan
Mar 2013
#65
See my post above to you. Yes, parents DO have responsibility for their children learning.
madfloridian
Mar 2013
#17
we aren't sinking in comparison to other countries. i've posted multiple times on the problems
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#44
I'm not going to go and look for a link for each one of those claims again; if you're interested
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#47
Because the only reason children fail is because they have bad teachers?
proud2BlibKansan
Mar 2013
#31
socio-economic status. It's the best predictor of student performance out there. Not only in
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#48