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truedelphi

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Sat Mar 16, 2013, 03:55 PM Mar 2013

Tran Pacific Plan about to end almost all American Dreams [View all]

Back in the quaint Eighteenth Century, when Business Leaders wanted to have some idea of theirs go forward, legislatively speaking, it was required for Congress to pass the "Act" by a two thirds majority vote.

Since then, the One Percent has become much more savvy. Currently, a game-changing proposal is afloat, off in secret, and sometime later this year, it will not go to Congress as an "Act" but as a "Plan." This means the legislation will only require a simple majority in Congress to become law. And once it becomes law, it will set forth the most onerous set of rules that any American has ever faced.

Do you think our prison system is run poorly now? What will that same system be like when the Chinese are running it? Are you happy that here in California, cars must be built to have maximum fuel efficiency? Well, it's possible that under the TPP, those laws won't apply to any foreign auto maker whose cars aren't built to meet those standards.

Meanwhile, is some local law allowing your chosen neck of the woods to have a cleaner environment than other areas of the world? Well, wait till those laws are seen as being subservient to the TPP legisaltion, and you will watch your protections quickly fade away.


From way back in Lat Fall, 2010, Truth Out has this to say about the Trans Pacific Plan:
http://truth-out.org/news/item/12934-why-so-secretive?-the-trans-pacific-partnership-as-global-coup

For example, public interest groups have been warning that the TPP could result in millions of lost jobs. As a letter from Congress to United States Trade Representative Ron Kirk stated, the TPP “will create binding policies on future Congresses in numerous areas,” including “those related to labor, patent and copyright, land use, food, agriculture and product standards, natural resources, the environment, professional licensing, state-owned enterprises and government procurement policies, as well as financial, healthcare, energy, telecommunications and other service sector regulations.” In other words, as promised, the TPP goes far beyond “trade.”

Dubbed by many as “NAFTA on steroids” and a “corporate coup,” only two of the TPP’s 26 chapters actually have anything to do with trade. Most of it grants far-reaching new rights and privileges to corporations, specifically related to intellectual property rights (copyright and patent laws), as well as constraints on government regulations.

The leaked documents revealed that the Obama administration “intends to bestow radical new political powers upon multinational corporations,” as Obama and Kirk have emerged as strong advocates “for policies that environmental activists, financial reform advocates and labor unions have long rejected for eroding key protections currently in domestic laws.”

In other words, the already ineffective and mostly toothless environmental, financial, and labor regulations that exist are unacceptable to the Obama administration and the 600 corporations aligned with the TPP who are giving him his orders. Also, the agreement stipulates that foreign corporations operating in the United States would no longer be subject to domestic U.S. laws regarding protections for the environment, finance or labor rights, and could appeal to an “international tribunal” which would be given the power to overrule American law and impose sanctions on the U.S. for violating the new “rights” of corporations.

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What else will the TPP do? Here's statement from Doctors without Borders March 2013:

“The negotiations are being conducted in secret, but leaked drafts of the agreement include aggressive intellectual property (IP) rules that would restrict access to affordable, lifesaving medicines for millions of people.

Proposed by U.S. negotiators, the IP rules enhance patent and data protections for pharmaceutical companies, dismantle public health safeguards enshrined in international law, and obstruct price-lowering generic competition for medicines.”

A bit of text from Common Dreams Also, March 2013:

Meanwhile, provisions in the proposed investment chapter would give pharmaceutical companies the right to sue governments for instituting any regulation that reduces their expected profits, using private tribunals that circumvent a country’s judicial process

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So this is an indication that all the "wonderful" Eleventh dimensional chess that guaranteed that Big Insurers and Big Pharma could continue to raise their prices Sky High, will now be a policy for the people of the entire TPP region to rejoice in! No more generic medicines! Ability to claim that decent drugs, that happen to be inexpensive as they are now outside the patenting provisions (items like Benadryl, and other over the counter drugs) can be eliminated simply by some foreign company stating that they are not safe. This all certainly brings the ACA process regarding generic drugs and drug re-importation into a much sharper focus.

And if you think that our laws that help keep our environment are extremely lacking in power of enforcement, just wait! Do you ever think BP Cleanup, or think Fracking and oil refinery pollution is out of control? Wait till the TPP is in effect. These past few years will seem like a Golden age, when contrasted with this new piece of legislative "Planning."

On edit: Here are two separate reports on the Trans Pacific Plan. The first report is favorable; the report from the Citizens' Trade Org is far from favorable.

A PDF that details which nations are part of the plan, and various statistics regarding the nations and their populations. This study is a study favoring the USA doing this:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R42344.pdf

Disapproving report of the TPP
http://www.citizenstrade.org/ctc/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/TransPacificFactsheet.pdf

"Democracy Now" has also had some decent programs regarding the issue, with the following link reminding us of various pledges that Barack Obama made to us back in 2008, that are now just inconvenient campaign promises, there to be broken:
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/14/breaking_08_pledge_leaked_trade_doc

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/6/14/breaking_08_pledge_leaked_trade_doc

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Please note that many of the states that are choosing to become marijuana "friendly" might find out truedelphi Mar 2013 #1
Thanks for the post about this... KoKo Mar 2013 #2
Apparently the President has stated he wants this done by Halloween - truedelphi Mar 2013 #4
The whole country - under the bus. So the rich can get richer. Did ANYONE vote for THIS? forestpath Mar 2013 #3
According to what I am reading, the Plan needs to be accepted by all the truedelphi Mar 2013 #6
I'd guess the latter. forestpath Mar 2013 #8
It's the US Constitution that requires 2/3 vote for approval of treaties fasttense Mar 2013 #65
Votes mean nothing the day after an election. djean111 Mar 2013 #7
I have no doubt either. forestpath Mar 2013 #9
That IS WHY all the negotiations were done in secret, bvar22 Mar 2013 #18
So true... KoKo Mar 2013 #21
No and I wish I could take my vote back MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #33
We kind of all voted for it because both candidates supported it. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #60
Were there only two candidates? I didn't know that. n/t truth2power Mar 2013 #69
on this discussion board there was NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #82
Thank yew. truth2power Mar 2013 #107
The Icon worshippers will be along soon to tell us how we are wrong n2doc Mar 2013 #5
One of my favorite news orgs - one that has real journalists - truedelphi Mar 2013 #10
There have been posts about it KoKo Mar 2013 #12
It is rather amazing how sometimes a topic will truedelphi Mar 2013 #37
What happened to "We the people" and "I'll put on my comfortable shoes"?... truth2power Mar 2013 #71
Yep. It's kind of a pattern, isn't it.... truth2power Mar 2013 #70
In the "hippy days," there was talk about the evils of sovereignty... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #79
heh. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2013 #85
K & R n/t JohnyCanuck Mar 2013 #11
Bummer abelenkpe Mar 2013 #13
Write Letters and Make Calls Cedric the Clam Mar 2013 #14
Doesn't the WH.Gov. site have a Petition that folks can sign KoKo Mar 2013 #27
HERE IT IS! PETITIONS WHITE HOUSE.GOV...to the PRESIDENT! KoKo Mar 2013 #44
No, take to the streets. In masses. cui bono Mar 2013 #64
When we take to the streets we need to be fighting for COMPLETE CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #83
The more I see of the future the more I am glad I never had children.... WCGreen Mar 2013 #15
Same here - KT2000 Mar 2013 #25
This: CrispyQ Mar 2013 #84
good people need to have children to fight the good fight NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #87
+1 HiPointDem Mar 2013 #26
I've had the same thought countless times. FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #35
I feel that way as well nt irisblue Mar 2013 #56
+1 stuntcat Mar 2013 #74
Australia doesn't like the" intl corps having power over the laws of nations and states" clause octoberlib Mar 2013 #16
Like I promised Cedric the Clam Mar 2013 #17
Thanks, I signed Lifelong Protester Mar 2013 #23
Thanks. Just signed and posted to Facebook. tomg Mar 2013 #29
signed too! Thanks. They_Live Mar 2013 #40
This link is to a moveon petition, which is fine, but it is not whitehouse.gov Maineman Mar 2013 #67
Indeed! Will someone create a whitehouse.gov petition? Duppers Mar 2013 #93
kr for an excellent post green for victory Mar 2013 #19
Excellent summary of the TPP. Read this and consider how deep the implications run. pa28 Mar 2013 #20
Even some cpac loonies agree, even if they have different reasons beyurslf Mar 2013 #22
It used to be an issue the RW would get worked up about... KoKo Mar 2013 #28
kr HiPointDem Mar 2013 #24
K&R JDPriestly Mar 2013 #30
New World Order RobertEarl Mar 2013 #31
I always thought secondvariety Mar 2013 #32
Nice....... KoKo Mar 2013 #34
Great OP. Great video. rec PufPuf23 Mar 2013 #58
NOT Communism, IMO. If you listen carefully... truth2power Mar 2013 #73
The fast track to Corporate Fascism and Feudalism ... just heinous Auggie Mar 2013 #36
The real question is why are we taking it? The second question is are we sure this is true? Pakid Mar 2013 #38
Of course it is true. Major networks present information on it truedelphi Mar 2013 #41
Well said, and so important. woo me with science Mar 2013 #45
Bipartisan Cedric the Clam Mar 2013 #46
Here is the link...instructions are there for posting a new petition KoKo Mar 2013 #95
Thanks for that link, Koko. n/t truedelphi Mar 2013 #103
If it hurts the middle class, the GOP and Conservadems NorthCarolina Mar 2013 #39
It will hurt ALL of us, and Obama, a Democrat, is pushing it right now. woo me with science Mar 2013 #42
^^^ <----nailed green for victory Mar 2013 #48
"Interesting" woo me with science Mar 2013 #50
Blasphomy! Phlem Mar 2013 #54
Spot on analysis NorthCarolina Mar 2013 #66
K & R historylovr Mar 2013 #43
k&r TheUnspeakable Mar 2013 #47
Won't Listen mtasselin Mar 2013 #49
+1000000000 We need massive face-to-face and internet education going on. woo me with science Mar 2013 #53
Me too, but I think it's such a dry topic, it's hard to get people interested in it NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #51
An "Act" vs. a "Plan"??? Where does this terminology come from? reACTIONary Mar 2013 #52
Any chance this train wreck can be avoided? yourout Mar 2013 #55
Trying Cedric the Clam Mar 2013 #68
This is the BIG one. An economic tsunami. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #57
+1000 Berlum Mar 2013 #75
+1000 blackspade Mar 2013 #59
"I have a cunning plan, My Lord." Alkene Mar 2013 #61
This is so discouraging. Down and down and down we go. n/t UtahLib Mar 2013 #62
K&R We People Mar 2013 #63
truthout and common dreams?? LOL might have well linked to the National Enquirer RB TexLa Mar 2013 #72
Yeah. All they've ever done was tell the truth. Octafish Mar 2013 #77
The Council on Foreign Relations has had some good pieces on the TPP RB TexLa Mar 2013 #81
I guess the millionaires and billionaires that control them DO have some good pieces. Elwood P Dowd Mar 2013 #97
I, as an American Madmiddle Mar 2013 #76
When top ranking CEOs disappear myseriously sorefeet Mar 2013 #78
Your sources are a bit much...as is your title. dkf Mar 2013 #80
I think he/she was trying to get peoples' attention with the title NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #89
What's wrong with the nyt or wapo? dkf Mar 2013 #90
Seriously? NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #96
I thought Republicans were so big on national sovereignty-- shouldn't they be against this? NoMoreWarNow Mar 2013 #86
Hah ... they'll support this because their corporate masters tell them to Auggie Mar 2013 #91
Thanks for posting. (nt) PETRUS Mar 2013 #92
If it isn't a treaty sulphurdunn Mar 2013 #94
Uh, you have heard of NAFTA, right? truedelphi Mar 2013 #99
being against NAFTA at the time was very uncool. Troglodyte, Bircher, Flat Earther- the insults were green for victory Mar 2013 #100
Yes, but legally sulphurdunn Mar 2013 #105
Yes, of course sulphurdunn Mar 2013 #104
So who among us can get someone to get Obama to truedelphi Mar 2013 #108
Only as many of us sulphurdunn Mar 2013 #109
This scares the hell out of me. loudsue Mar 2013 #98
Meanwhile off in the snowy roads of Canada, truedelphi Mar 2013 #101
kick woo me with science Mar 2013 #102
That giant sucking sound you hear is jsut Ross Perot being alarmist. Orsino Mar 2013 #106
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