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onenote

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5. Paul's entire "filibuster" is based on a straw man
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:53 PM
Mar 2013

He repeatedly concedes, as he must, that the President obviously has the authority to use lethal force against US citizens on US soil to repel an attack. But then he returns again and again to the claim that administration hasn't disavowed killing americans while they sit in a restaurant. But the administration has made it clear that even overseas they could target an American sitting at a restaurant only if capture was infeasible. Now the fact is that capture IS infeasible more often than not i when you're talking about operations in a a foreign country. But in the US, applying that same standard, its all but impossible to conjure up a situation in which targeting someone sitting at McDonald's could be taken out with a drone. But Paul would like to pretend that is what the administration has claimed it can do, even though Holder's letter and his testimony offers zero support for that supposition.

In this PBO is worse that W Vincardog Mar 2013 #1
Yeah, especially if you take Rand Paul seriously. ProSense Mar 2013 #2
I am referring to the administrations claimed power to kill US citizens based on "Suspicion" Vincardog Mar 2013 #3
The administration made no such claim. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #4
Then where are these people getting that Cha Mar 2013 #9
The President has claimed the power just google it. "Obama Kill US Citizens Without review" Vincardog Mar 2013 #14
I read Holder's statement.. Cha Mar 2013 #19
The NY Times seem to think so, Link here Vincardog Mar 2013 #11
Got a link referencing your comment? Thanks. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #8
see my last post or follow this link Vincardog Mar 2013 #12
The editorial board of the NY Times thinks a lot of things, but.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #15
Paul's entire "filibuster" is based on a straw man onenote Mar 2013 #5
Pfft, details! n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #7
thanks onenote for clarity and reality. Cha Mar 2013 #10
So are those who have been raging on Cha Mar 2013 #6
I think there's a big difference in people's mind between this and a quorum filibuster Recursion Mar 2013 #20
I think it is a good thing such questions are being asked. Skip Intro Mar 2013 #13
+1000! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2013 #16
I approve this filibuster. The President claims overly vague authority to kill in the US. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #17
Too bad the Rs decided to filibuster trampling of citizens' rights over 10 years too late ... zbdent Mar 2013 #18
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