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Rex

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94. Thank you.

Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:11 PM

Jan 2012

That is exactly what I was thinking about. Your post is a far better elaboration then my poor brain could come up with...I agree 100%.
I remember the American Propaganda under GWB.

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It wasn't an Agent Provocateur [View all] pintobean Jan 2012 OP

Maybe they were all agents provocateur... SidDithers Jan 2012 #1

Yep BeFree Jan 2012 #2

So police aren't supposed to react to people trying to break in and steal public property? TheWraith Jan 2012 #126

There were only a couple of dozen people at city hall... Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #7

Maybe they were all humorless, anal retentive Canadians? nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #24

Sid has a great sense of humor. pintobean Jan 2012 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Jan 2012 #29

... SidDithers Jan 2012 #30

Maybe EVERYONE in the Occupy Movement is a Provacateur... brooklynite Jan 2012 #37

Provocateurs, provocateurs everywhere!!... SidDithers Jan 2012 #44

AP's actual headline is 'Occupy Protest Rekindles Debate About Flag- Burning' Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #52

It's an honest pintobean Jan 2012 #55

If framed as your own opinion of what is said, sure. When you keep saying 'I posted Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #58

You've peppered the thread with your brilliant pintobean Jan 2012 #60

It is interesting that the phrase 'Agent Provocateur' is not used at all in the AP story Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #57

This is not LBN. There is no requirement to MineralMan Jan 2012 #67

Spot on. Rex Jan 2012 #82

What is your agenda to shame Occupy? Why would you go to such lengths? rhett o rick Jan 2012 #3

Status quo people are nervous of people that protest. mmonk Jan 2012 #6

yes 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #46

I posted a news article. pintobean Jan 2012 #8

So you wont tell us what your agenda is? Why you disparage OWS. Are you Sean Hannity? nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #13

the best answer I have found 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #48

Some people just can't pintobean Jan 2012 #51

Your OP didnt just report the news. You added your bias which appears to be rhett o rick Jan 2012 #109

How many times do you need to ask that? pintobean Jan 2012 #113

I wont bother you again. I just wonder why you go to such lengths to disparage those getting rhett o rick Jan 2012 #123

It isnt personal? pintobean Jan 2012 #128

It isnt personal. But I will challenge anyone that appears to use right wing talking points. rhett o rick Jan 2012 #129

actually 2pooped2pop Jan 2012 #116

And some people support the general cause Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #69

Thank you for posting. emilyg Jan 2012 #33

You posted an article with a different headline, you made your own headline. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #53

Why is reporting what OWS does "shame"? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #76

Your last paragraph says a lot. randome Jan 2012 #79

good or bad? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #81

Sorry! Good! randome Jan 2012 #85

Thank-you Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #88

Wow, anti OWS on Fox, Corp-media and in DU. Exagerating the damage done rhett o rick Jan 2012 #105

I think the Guy Fawkes mask might be constricting your oxygen supply Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #132

I always quality to post on DU snooper2 Jan 2012 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author Luminous Animal Jan 2012 #4

Lmao. Your evidence is that this guy incited a crowd EFerrari Jan 2012 #5

You didn't read the rest pintobean Jan 2012 #11

What is your agenda? Why do you disparage OWS? Common on, you know rhett o rick Jan 2012 #15

i can't speak for this poster, but how about this; dionysus Jan 2012 #18

OWS will attract all types of miscreants that will try to coopt the message of OWS. I expect that. rhett o rick Jan 2012 #38

Wow. No one can argue with that logic. pintobean Jan 2012 #41

Unlike the water tight arguments LanternWaste Jan 2012 #47

The article in the OP was from Associated Press, not Fox News...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #43

The title is not from AP at all. The linked article does not say what the title here says. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #50

The problem is Kellerfeller Jan 2012 #71

I like facts pintobean Jan 2012 #20

Your "facts" always seem to point to an agenda. Be brave and tell us your agenda. rhett o rick Jan 2012 #35

I answered your question pintobean Jan 2012 #39

If you have more evidence, I'd love to see it. EFerrari Jan 2012 #16

Yeah. Agents provocateurs can be in place for YEARS Remember Me Jan 2012 #21

I regret being dismissive of pintobean exactly because EFerrari Jan 2012 #22

Excellent point Remember Me Jan 2012 #23

I don't care pintobean Jan 2012 #25

Well, that's a relief. Remember Me Jan 2012 #32

See post #25 pintobean Jan 2012 #40

Oh, how cute. Remember Me Jan 2012 #75

LOL, you didn't read the article. joshcryer Jan 2012 #31

I did. The phrase 'Agent Provocateur' does not appear in the article at all. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #59

Really? That stood out for you? pintobean Jan 2012 #61

The article does not indicate any sense of incitement. joshcryer Jan 2012 #130

who cares? mike_c Jan 2012 #9

Conditioned responses. EFerrari Jan 2012 #17

Damn fine police work, lol. T S Justly Jan 2012 #10

After reading that article I'm more convinced than ever that it was indeed an agent provocateur. Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #12

The fucking feds need to come into Oakland gopiscrap Jan 2012 #14

glad he was arrested with the others, because tiny elvis Jan 2012 #19

Yeah like that would convince anyone of anything. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #27

Since flag burning has been ruled freedom of speech, I do not care who burns it, I would not. lonestarnot Jan 2012 #28

Exactly, and that's the same view the Occupy Oaklander interviewed in the article has. joshcryer Jan 2012 #34

Wow! lonestarnot Jan 2012 #36

Flag burning is absolutely protected speech metalbot Jan 2012 #63

Why did they have to steal someone else's flag first? hack89 Jan 2012 #80

And it won't be the end of OWS. Rex Jan 2012 #42

Okay. I'm wrong again. applegrove Jan 2012 #45

Perhaps, perhaps not.. 99Forever Jan 2012 #49

That declarative opening statement is not from the AP article. Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #54

Precisely my point. Thanks. n/t 99Forever Jan 2012 #62

Burning a symbol is a symbolic gesture and protected speech. morningfog Jan 2012 #56

Really? Can I break into your house and burn some of your symbols? metalbot Jan 2012 #65

It was the people's flag, the people burned it. morningfog Jan 2012 #125

Judge rules covered police badge serious violation (real headline alert) Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #64

... pintobean Jan 2012 #66

Why so down on Occupy? pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #68

I don't think you want to understand. pintobean Jan 2012 #73

The tactics of Occupy are many and diverse pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #74

What results? randome Jan 2012 #78

For one thing, Occupy has stopped many foreclosures pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #86

Does it make me a 'naysayer' to say that Occupy Oakland's attempt to take over a public building... randome Jan 2012 #87

If that's your only complaint, you should be posting OPs extolling the virtues of Occupy pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #89

There are plenty of OPs extolling the virtues of OWS. randome Jan 2012 #91

Occupy is doing a lot besides the "side issues" to which you object pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #95

You continue to side-step the issues I bring up. randome Jan 2012 #96

Your problem is the time wasted by OWS? Then why do you go to such lengths to vilify them? rhett o rick Jan 2012 #108

So is if fair to me to look to a single element of say, a Presidential campaign and say Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #103

Sorry, but that's exactly how provocateurs work Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #70

That's exactly how hot headed idiots work too. nt hack89 Jan 2012 #83

Most provocateurs are masters at pretending to be hot-headed idiots Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2012 #90

Most hot-headed idiots don't have to pretend hack89 Jan 2012 #97

This very much reminds me of Seattle WTO 12/2/99 suffragette Jan 2012 #72

Yep. AP, better known as *American Propaganda*. Hit pieces for the 1% their specialty. nt Zorra Jan 2012 #93

Yep, and our local news stations did the same suffragette Jan 2012 #111

I see bad people Broderick Jan 2012 #77

Yes it was. Rex Jan 2012 #84

So, um, are the cops going to pick up Troy Johnson for questioning, since Zorra Jan 2012 #92

Thank you. Rex Jan 2012 #94

"I haven't seen anything about this anywhere" pintobean Jan 2012 #98

try looking again DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #99

Give me a link pintobean Jan 2012 #100

link DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #102

That's a letter TO Occupy Oakland pintobean Jan 2012 #104

well then, get me a list of their officers so I know what's official DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #106

They have official statements pintobean Jan 2012 #107

Why is everyone so bent out of shape about the burning of a fucking flag? Taverner Jan 2012 #112

my comment refers to the fact that I have not heard of any one of these people Zorra Jan 2012 #118

But it was an Associated Press photographer, right? randome Jan 2012 #101

No, person in question appears to have been someone simply volunteering information Zorra Jan 2012 #117

Oh noes! Not the flag! Taverner Jan 2012 #110

For chrissakes, people, do some of you REALLY believe that nobody in the OWS... renie408 Jan 2012 #115

yeah, well, tell that to the people blowing this out of proportion. fascisthunter Jan 2012 #119

Honestly, the only reason it is getting blown out of proportion... renie408 Jan 2012 #121

IMO, it is important to be sure that the 1% is not using agents Zorra Jan 2012 #122

Long Live OWS!!!!! fascisthunter Jan 2012 #120

This whole thing was an open invitation to anarchists from the get go. Ruby the Liberal Jan 2012 #124

This guy wasn't an anarchist according to the interviewed Occupier. joshcryer Jan 2012 #131

Who gives a shit? whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #127