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Bluenorthwest

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78. Homophobia reeks in the RCC. Sully's a gay man and a Catholic of course.

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:35 PM

Feb 2013

But what you said was that his companion was continuing his job with Bene, when that is not the case, this is verified. He is going to live with Bene but work at his old job, helping the new Pope castigate same sex couples. It is what it is.
So I as a gay man, don't see Sully as being homophobic, I see the Pope, his companion and the Vatican machine that maintains their vast closet of oppression as deeply and actively homophobic and intensely hypocritical. And I see the folks in this thread claiming that it's just the guy keeping his old job as butler so that Bene will not be alone in a studio apartment having to pour his own Ensure as being intellectually dishonest for the sake of an old homophobe and his adorable male long time constant companion.

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"Pope Benedict’s handsome male companion will continue to live with him" [View all] Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 OP

Not that there's anything wrong with that. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #1

absolutely nothing wrong with that. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #2

Aside from the irrelevant possibility that the pope might be gay, such an arrangement would ladjf Feb 2013 #76

Only thing wrong with it is the supreme hypocrisy. GObamaGO Feb 2013 #3

yup Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #4

It would be hypocrisy if they have a sexual relationship. ... spin Feb 2013 #7

I can see that. Even if they ARE in love... Beartracks Feb 2013 #31

Oh yes there is - he called gay marriage "ideology of evil" closeupready Feb 2013 #49

the Pope's VooDoo Doll.. this link is really way innappropriate, but really funny, sorta rabid_byter Feb 2013 #5

A Pope and his rentboy... n/t backscatter712 Feb 2013 #6

I'm sure it is just his replacement Sith. Liberal Veteran Feb 2013 #8

Ah, yes, Darth Georg...the Force is strong with this one Glorfindel Feb 2013 #10

Ewwwwwww!! Hulk Smash Feb 2013 #9

Um, why "ewwwwww!!" tpsbmam Feb 2013 #11

I saw it and believed it to be related to age difference. FedUpWithIt All Feb 2013 #20

I dunno...thought it was a questionable reaction. tpsbmam Feb 2013 #21

ageist? AngryAmish Feb 2013 #40

Isn't the Pope supposed to be celibate? BlueStreak Feb 2013 #30

No, the poster mentioned homophobia because some of the comments in this thread pnwmom Feb 2013 #50

So fucking what MadrasT Feb 2013 #12

Hypocrisy is what we're calling out. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #15

You don't see the hypocracy in play? Ruby the Liberal Feb 2013 #17

You don't see the progressive hypocrisy at play? pnwmom Feb 2013 #46

It is really disappointing. MadrasT Feb 2013 #52

this. although I will say most here do not understand higher ranking nuns and priests routinely bettyellen Feb 2013 #53

Yes. It's pretty funny, really. pnwmom Feb 2013 #68

Great point! As an aside, my aunt often complained about the priests.... bettyellen Feb 2013 #71

Jumping straight to what you state they are doing "behind closed doors" is a huge leap. MadrasT Feb 2013 #51

doesn't mean anything, look at Strom Thurmond , there are many hypocrites JI7 Feb 2013 #25

Somehow, I don't think so Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #13

Why would his reactions be so vehement? backscatter712 Feb 2013 #16

Exactly. The louder they rant against it, the more likely it is. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Feb 2013 #18

Andrew Sullivan posting this? Well.. KoKo Feb 2013 #14

Aww how romantic.. SummerSnow Feb 2013 #19

He is handsome LeftInTX Feb 2013 #22

That's what I thought too get the red out Feb 2013 #55

So what> UNREC. 840high Feb 2013 #23

he isn't bad looking, he could do a lot better than Pope Ratz JI7 Feb 2013 #24

I hope when I am 85 years old I have a handsome younger man with me. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #26

maybe if you become Pope JI7 Feb 2013 #27

They don't elect out gay men like me. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #28

Hmm, kind of Kennedyesque, but better. As a Catholic, it feels TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #29

Did anyone stop and think that maybe a 85yro needs 24hr assisted living? kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #33

+1. and sullivan is a right wing whore himself. get yer war on, andy. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #34

I did. He's obviously fragile and not in good health. n/t pnwmom Feb 2013 #45

Really? Any reason why an Archbishop is needed for that? The old pope elevated his personal msanthrope Feb 2013 #59

Ratzinger has always surrounded himself with a chorus line of handsome priests Hekate Feb 2013 #35

I'm with you on that last paragraph. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #36

"the shadow pope" -- Sullivan's not gay-baiting magical thyme Feb 2013 #37

Having a butler now means you're gay? jambo101 Feb 2013 #38

Oh, but see, if your butler is good looking that means you are gay. pnwmom Feb 2013 #44

A few points of fact. The man is not a butler, the man will no longer work for Bene but will work Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #57

Another fact. Benedict is 85 years old, pnwmom Feb 2013 #66

But his age is the only fact in what you said. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #77

What difference does it make what the title of this assistant is? pnwmom Mar 2013 #80

As a total aside: Raine1967 Feb 2013 #72

This thread sounds like conservatives wrote it. maryland native Feb 2013 #39

Welcome to DU, maryland native! n/t pnwmom Feb 2013 #43

Oh for Jebus' sake! The Pope has a personal secretary, MineralMan Feb 2013 #41

A personal secretary he elevated to Archbishop in December. Thus, the old pope's personal msanthrope Feb 2013 #56

I thought only Cardinals were involved in the MineralMan Feb 2013 #58

Oh--he's not an elector. He's the guy who is going to oversee the changes the Pope made last week msanthrope Feb 2013 #67

Is there a translation of that somewhere? MineralMan Feb 2013 #70

The Vatican has not done an english translation that I have found. msanthrope Feb 2013 #73

I'm only marginally interested in the internal politics MineralMan Feb 2013 #74

What I found interestimg is the "dead hand" nature of these changes, and the draconian level of msanthrope Feb 2013 #75

The new Archbishop could be a shadow Pope. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #79

Take another read. He does not retain the secretary in retirment, that is Sullivan's central point: Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #62

I don't trust that writer to get anything right. MineralMan Feb 2013 #64

Homophobia reeks in the RCC. Sully's a gay man and a Catholic of course. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #78

I fail to see how this is strange at all. He's 85 years old and probably shouldn't be living alone. pnwmom Feb 2013 #42

Oh, you and your being all sensible and stuff Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #61

Sorry for spoiling your fun! pnwmom Feb 2013 #63

But the notion that he'd be 'lving alone' is absurd. He's going to Gandalfo, a palace larger than Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #65

I'm not sure it's possible to be a serious commentator and a gossip at the same time. reformist2 Feb 2013 #47

This Padre Georg seems to be the Pope's official hat putter-on-er! reformist2 Feb 2013 #48

Yea, that's normal get the red out Feb 2013 #54

This would make either a really good sit-com or a really good porn movie (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #60

And so that means what exactly to Roman Catholics? Rex Feb 2013 #69