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Macoy51

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9. Apples, Meet Oranges

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:19 PM

Feb 2013

FTA: “Men were found to be more likely to become nurse anesthetists, which is the highest paid nursing occupation, and were found least likely to become licensed practical or licensed vocational nurses, the lowest paid types of nursing.”

So men work harder to learn more complex skills…and get paid more for their higher skill set? Boggles the mind! The article also goes on to say that men tended to work off shifts/week-ends and received the shift differential.

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Number of male nurses triple; average pay: $60,700/yr. Female nurse average pay: $51,100. [View all] SunSeeker Feb 2013 OP

No surprise here SoCalDem Feb 2013 #1

"as men enter previously 'female jobs,' wages tend to rise... " SunSeeker Feb 2013 #2

ain't that the evil truth? SoCalDem Feb 2013 #4

Yup, Obama said that's what happened to his mom at the bank she worked. nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #5

Could male upper body strength comes into play? Moonwalk Feb 2013 #28

Not all nurses need to do heavy lifting Texasgal Feb 2013 #30

You don't need a nursing degree to move a patient; they have aids/orderlies for that. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #45

As A Single Mom And Sole Provider For My Child HangOnKids Feb 2013 #3

+1000 n/t politicat Feb 2013 #46

+1 Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #18

Where does each tend to work? davidn3600 Feb 2013 #6

Excellent points Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #8

The article does point to different career paths. antigone382 Feb 2013 #11

Are you saying women should get paid more than men because they have a uterus? davidn3600 Feb 2013 #31

No, I am saying that we should acknowledge what a uterus does and not punish women for having one. antigone382 Feb 2013 #34

So, pay each mother a certain amount of money every year for having and rearing a child? OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #36

Such is not the case in Europe, where paid parental leave is the norm. antigone382 Feb 2013 #37

That already happens in advanced countries like oh Sweden nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #50

But the article also says that for each type of nursing, men get paid more than women. pnwmom Feb 2013 #26

"Each type of nursing" = 4 'types' -- nurse practitioner, anesthetist, RN, & LPN in the report. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #59

Since the overall gap = 9%, I expect that most of it can be explained by just those kinds of HiPointDem Feb 2013 #58

I would like to see it broken down by hourly wage madville Feb 2013 #7

It still isn't just for women to suffer economically because we bear children. antigone382 Feb 2013 #13

Every nurse I know is paid hourly madville Feb 2013 #15

Thank you for the clarification. antigone382 Feb 2013 #16

I just don't like the annual earnings stat madville Feb 2013 #20

Here's some HOURLY stats that show similar inequality. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #56

Apples, Meet Oranges Macoy51 Feb 2013 #9

The responses to this thread were so far off the point that I had to make my own thread antigone382 Feb 2013 #10

It is not that "men work harder," they just get paid more. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #14

"even when you compare the same nursing positions (apples to apples), men make more." redqueen Feb 2013 #17

It's the mentality that says women don't need to make as much because they are being supported duffyduff Feb 2013 #25

Really?? Macoy51 Feb 2013 #57

Really. College is easy, dressing bed sores is hard. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #60

And Oranges, meet higher-paid Oranges. Apparently you missed this: pnwmom Feb 2013 #27

Did it say why? RB TexLa Feb 2013 #38

A deeper why: why do the women take vacation and sick time, but not the men? antigone382 Feb 2013 #41

Point taken, but they wanted to force the female RB TexLa Feb 2013 #44

That has little to do with it. The REAL reason is the attitude of our society and employers that duffyduff Feb 2013 #49

Well, having studied occupational sex segration I would say time off has a fair bit to do with it. antigone382 Feb 2013 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author greymattermom Feb 2013 #12

Having been a nurse for 20-some years rainbow4321 Feb 2013 #19

I don't think it's as simple as what that report shows madville Feb 2013 #21

100% spot on... ileus Feb 2013 #24

We have a weird pay structure: the less you touch the patient, the more you get paid. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #54

Sounds typical of the health care field! rainbow4321 Feb 2013 #62

Unionize. felix_numinous Feb 2013 #22

Many nurses are Niceguy1 Feb 2013 #29

Who literally advocates that the hourly rate be higher based on gender? antigone382 Feb 2013 #39

This has been Niceguy1 Feb 2013 #42

It has not been sufficiently addressed, and pregnancy is a choice a man will never have to make. antigone382 Feb 2013 #43

I tned to agree Niceguy1 Feb 2013 #48

All our male nurses end up as managers within 10 years. ileus Feb 2013 #23

I agree.. Texasgal Feb 2013 #32

If more men are gravitating towards the more high-paying nursing professions than women, OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #33

The problem is based on merit pay Texasgal Feb 2013 #35

In articles like this one Niceguy1 Feb 2013 #47

But is that the case? OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #51

Yes it is. Texasgal Feb 2013 #52

Very doubtful. N/t. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #61

The question is why are men gravitating to those positions more than women? antigone382 Feb 2013 #40

Where I work as a nurse we have had some really bad male nurse managers. mucifer Feb 2013 #55