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Tom Ripley

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23. You misunderstand...

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:55 PM

Feb 2013

1) I suspect that McFarlane is straight, but fears the homophobia, and perhaps embraces the homophobia, that often equates musical theatre and gay. It is a stupid equation, but it undeniably exists in American culture.
2) In my experience, straight men are generally the crudest misogynists, hence McFarlane upping the ante on misogyny.
3) I am hetero, not that it really matters, but I am the one who runs around the house bursting into selections from "Gypsy", "Cabaret", "Damn Yankees", "Kiss Me Kate", "Kismet","Annie Get Your Gun", "Pal Joey", and so on and so on. I love that stuff, and my love for it does not make me any less "than a man", "one of the guys", blah, blah, blah... all of the things that your typical 8 year old boy is too often unfortunately taught to fear.
I just don't think that McFarlane has ever progressed beyond that playground mentality.

I apologize for the confusion.

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Seth MacFarlane's Oscars Had a Deaf Ear and a Blind Eye to Women [View all] backtoblue Feb 2013 OP

So what else is new? Hollywood has a long, sordid history of demeaning women. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #1

the difference is that progressives seem to be getting on the train of laughing at a very real backtoblue Feb 2013 #6

Again, that is nothing new. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #24

So, how do we fix the problem? backtoblue Feb 2013 #25

So we should just ignore it? You're part of the problem then. We've got to shout it down. chimpymustgo Feb 2013 #42

Expect him back, though. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #2

He reportedly said "no way" he would do it again. morningfog Feb 2013 #7

Good! Hope he stickes to his words goclark Feb 2013 #30

But the so-called "progressive" climate on DU includes many who find no problem with it. hlthe2b Feb 2013 #3

I wasn't going to post this at first, but backtoblue Feb 2013 #5

+1 redqueen Feb 2013 #35

People who do that are not "progressives". MadrasT Feb 2013 #54

Well, Dennis Miller thought it was funny. So there, Cha-Chee! Ian David Feb 2013 #4

Humor is a display of power Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #8

The Best Satire Gets The Strongest Reaction... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #9

I could turn it off, walk away, and say "oh well" backtoblue Feb 2013 #10

if women exposing their breast on film is demeaning then why do so many do it leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #11

Some of those roles were very serious, like Jodie Foster being gang raped in The Accused. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #17

Bare breasts are not demeaining. Reducing women's contribution to film by focusing on their Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #20

+1 redqueen Feb 2013 #36

+1000 Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #48

....really, DU needs ANOTHER Oscars poutrage thread? truebrit71 Feb 2013 #12

It's not about the Oscars at al... It's what constitutes humor and what constitutes blatant misogyny backtoblue Feb 2013 #14

Poutrage! Floyd_Gondolli Feb 2013 #15

so talking about sexism and misogyny is poutrage? not surprising, considering some of the niyad Feb 2013 #16

Yes. DU does. Hide the post if it offends your tender sensibilities. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #22

Surprise, surprise, Seth MacFarlane's an unfunny turd. Arkana Feb 2013 #13

I'm a fairly nihilistic person, but I a little Seth McFarlane goes a long ways... Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #18

Sometimes I suspect his misogyny is overcompenation for his obvious love for musical theatre... Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #19

Huh? Three things: Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #21

You misunderstand... Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #23

Or maybe he's worth over $100MM Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #26

I don't dispute any of those facts you present (n/t) Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #28

Yup he really did waylay Sally Field backstage ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #27

You do realize it is a "show" right? MindPilot Feb 2013 #39

This is what I keep trying to say Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #41

Thanks. Had that discussion with my SO last night. MindPilot Feb 2013 #43

Oh, is that so? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #49

Sorry...hard to tell sometimes MindPilot Feb 2013 #51

"Female characters account for only 11 percent of protagonists" davidn3600 Feb 2013 #29

It would be interesting to see that adjusted for budget cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #31

Citations for your claims re male "vast" majority moviegoers and video gamers? nt redqueen Feb 2013 #32

It's pretty much common knowledge davidn3600 Feb 2013 #34

Yes, I thought I'd read that women were half if not more than half of US moviegoers. redqueen Feb 2013 #38

Just social gender roles for the most part davidn3600 Feb 2013 #46

So women have to accept shitty treatment because doing otherwise is hard. redqueen Feb 2013 #47

The industry is going to cater to its market davidn3600 Feb 2013 #52

Thanks for the mansplaining. Sources can help disprove MYTHS. chimpymustgo Feb 2013 #45

Yeah and what came out in 2009? davidn3600 Feb 2013 #50

I think that will soon change as women become more action-oriented LittleBlue Feb 2013 #55

"The Academy's younger cohort can be just as sexist as the old guard?" SpartanDem Feb 2013 #33

What do you expect from the creator of "Family Guy" tinrobot Feb 2013 #37

Streisand, Bassey, Adele, Zeta-Jones all performed Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #40

One of the worst Oscars ever bigwillq Feb 2013 #44

Good read. I kept hearing how sexist the Oscars were this year Number23 Feb 2013 #53