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patrice

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31. Do you know what frequency distributions are in basic descriptive statistics? Are you saying there
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:13 PM
Feb 2013

is 0 probability that what calls itself "the Left" (especially in an anonymous environment like the internet) has any extremist traits in any degree whatsoever, and that there is 0 probability that any of said traits could produce what at least appears to be, or could outright actually be, intolerance toward different others, and that there is 0 probability that those intolerant behaviors could be dysfunctional for themselves and/or for those different others in any way? Or are you saying that none of that matters?

Is it good for people to just stand by while the truth is accidentally or intentionally obfuscated? Isn't that called Plausible Deniability? If it's only one or a few hurting or handicapping others, accidentally or intentionally, is that okay if the doers are wearing the right label? belong to the right power clique? I know there isn't that much that most of us can do to change others, because they must change themselves, but that doesn't mean that we should accept taboos that amount to "see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" and presto-chango everything is okay. The opposite of such social taboo-observance is called a "peace check" in some affinity cohorts, but such honest reality testing behaviors also have their places in many other kinds of collective endeavors, such as quality assurance, professional de-briefings, and any other effort to break group-think. Am I supposed to believe that what calls itself "the Left" engages so honestly and completely in this kind of self-reality testing and, hence, has no mis-understandings or negative intent of the same type as that characterized in OP, simply because someone says it is "the Left"? Believe it or not, I actually have seen real reasons in the real world that justify these questions.

Sorry about all of the questions, though, I'm struggling with why it appears that you don't understand the assumptions behind false dichotomies like "Left" good, Right bad, so all we have to do is divide up in our respective camps, whether they are actually authentically one's affinity group or not, and problems solved. It's such an obvious oversimplification of real flesh and blood and extremely complex humans; it's disrespectful of their humanity.

If you really care what my frame of reference is here, I'd like to suggest readings in cognitive development and including the biology of behavior, but a more specific reference for an applied form of those phenomena can be seen dating from Aristotle's Lyceum, through J.J. Rousseau's Emil, and can be seen in the learning theories of John Dewey and, most particularly in Paulo Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed especially in his references to what he called praxis, which is grounded in just being aware of how one internalizes the oppressor.

This. MUST. end. - GREEN Party where the hell ARE you, when you can actually do something??? patrice Feb 2013 #1
A few elections ago, both the Republicans and Democrats nominated Hikind. ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #4
No doubt about it; what calls itself "the Left" generates its very own brand of extremists, patrice Feb 2013 #13
You will have to connect the dots form me. bvar22 Feb 2013 #23
I was referring to ButterflyBlood's anecdote; perhaps they aren't "Lefties". Labels are used patrice Feb 2013 #25
I still don't see the dots connecting. bvar22 Feb 2013 #29
Do you know what frequency distributions are in basic descriptive statistics? Are you saying there patrice Feb 2013 #31
In other words, bvar22 Feb 2013 #33
Pot, kettle. Got that too. If you refuse to respect others, you don't deserve respect. Someone patrice Feb 2013 #34
You surrebdered your right to Moral High Ground, bvar22 Feb 2013 #36
This guy is not a "lefty", nor are his constituents ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #30
Thanks for the clarification. I should have asked instead of assuming the district's problem was patrice Feb 2013 #32
HE SUPPORTED MITT ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT. NOT KIDDING. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #27
UPDATE-->SeattlePI: "NY assemblyman stands by blackface, Afro costume" Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #2
I wonder if he'd have the same reaction to a Black man dressed as a Hasidim. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #7
Funny you should bring that up! You're never going to believe this but TWO WEEKS ago... Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #8
it's okay when i do it, but not okay if others do it noiretextatique Feb 2013 #9
Yeah, I saw that. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #15
Just as an aside, but Galliano's get up in light of his undeniable anti-semitism cali Feb 2013 #20
I assumed that was already well-known, hence the juxtaposition of Foxman defending him. nt Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #21
Hasidim is the plural DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #24
Dov Hikund represents my in-laws Hard Assets Feb 2013 #3
Are your in-laws Hasids? ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #5
No. They are religious Jews, but they are not Hasidic Hard Assets Feb 2013 #14
I knew who this was before I clicked. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #6
I should have KamaAina Feb 2013 #35
Hypocritical jerk. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #10
Ugh and double ugh. What a racist creep. Of course, he's an all around creep cali Feb 2013 #11
That is offensive but it is not "blackface" RB TexLa Feb 2013 #12
Really. Show us how you do it, then. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #16
Of course it is. cali Feb 2013 #17
Dressing up as Queen Esther for Purim wasn't good enough for him? Hekate Feb 2013 #18
Ugh sakabatou Feb 2013 #19
Anti-black racism isn't exactly unheard of amongst his constituents. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #22
The guy really needs to buy a clue. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #26
He wishes! nt kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #28
In that second picture, Heywood J Feb 2013 #37
I wished I could vote that jerk out of office. Pterodactyl Feb 2013 #38
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