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In reply to the discussion: I owe some DUers an apology. [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)37. its good of you to apologize
When I saw a rush to rec I was somewhat disheartened by the knee jerk reaction.
Here is what I see:
The President has raised taxes on the rich. He campaigned on it and in so doing has changed the entire framing of the revenue side.
Secondly he is demanding MORE revenues and standing firm before any cuts. Corporate welfare and loopholes are going to get close scruitiny
Third he has moved defense on to the table. There will be not deal without sizeable defense cuts. He has split the Republicans on this issue.
Finally many of the so called cuts, like the ones in Medicare, appear not to be to the beneficiaries but to those corporate entities who are abusing it.
I believe that if we were asked 3-4 years ago if this would be a good deal we would have thought it impossible.
That would be enough in my book but he has also done it in such a way to keep the Republicans on the defensive, divided (they cannot even agree on a rebuttal to the SOU) and about to be slapped silly by Wall Street when the stock market loses 15-20% of its value.
Let's just be patient and see what moves he has.
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Those earning between $30 and $40K would be hit the hardest according to the linked article. n/t
Sekhmets Daughter
Feb 2013
#5
Thanks for yr apology! This whole fiasco reminds me of how the wonderful ACA really hits
truedelphi
Feb 2013
#109
Same theme, "IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY" ...., "but 'we' hate being bought & sold as slaves!"
patrice
Feb 2013
#98
This thread isn't about SS, it's about other ways the chained CPI could impact people.
Bolo Boffin
Feb 2013
#41
You stopped making specific claims shortly after the 2010 State of the Union.
JoePhilly
Feb 2013
#133
Nah. You just keep making stuff up. You are either ignorant about how the CPI works
bluestate10
Feb 2013
#159
Having a rational argument with Manny is like trying to catch a waterfall with your bear hands.
bluestate10
Feb 2013
#160
Just don't hold your breath while you wait. Predictable gambit, but no cigar.
freshwest
Feb 2013
#99
+1 Why aren't we asking, god forbid!!, what could be bought in terms of loophole abatement, or solar
patrice
Feb 2013
#57
Hypothetical "yes", but the question is what to do. TIME is short. Have you seen those graphs
patrice
Feb 2013
#89
Some people bitch about everytthing being about money and then they MAKE everything about money.
patrice
Feb 2013
#87
I agree; I saw it as purely sarcastic and I fully agree with the sentiment!
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#50
That's related to the same thing we say about how we are told "There's not enough (whatever) to go
patrice
Feb 2013
#97
Cutting benefits to veterans and increasing taxes on $30,000-40,000 income is still unacceptable
AndyA
Feb 2013
#76
It's funny. You post Obamas offer from the WH web site, and you are putting Obama down
Autumn
Feb 2013
#80
The president's offer to cut benefits for seniors, veterans, and the working poor
Autumn
Feb 2013
#84
"2. Increasing taxes, .." is as clever as Reagan's taxation of 50% of SS benefits for the first time
AnotherMcIntosh
Feb 2013
#101
The cuts that you mentioned are unacceptable. There are other uses of CPI.
bluestate10
Feb 2013
#103
Sorry, but President Obama isn't evilly thinking of how to screw SS recipients.
bluestate10
Feb 2013
#123
And I would be forever grteful if the Fed Government would release the names of the
truedelphi
Feb 2013
#142
Manny, I stated in this OP somewhere that in the case of disinflation, the CPI should freeze.
bluestate10
Feb 2013
#164