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roxy1234

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57. For the record

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:17 PM

Feb 2013

I am not really a gun guy. I dont own a gun, I have never shot one or even touched a gun but in the same vein that I support gay marriage even though am not gay, I support the 2nd amendment. So I am not on a mission to educate people but I will from time to time correct people when they post wrong information about guns.

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10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down [View all] Botany Feb 2013 OP

Actually there is some backing for most of them (unfortunately) ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #1

I stopped at #1 because there are bills in the California legislature to do just that right now slackmaster Feb 2013 #2

And numerous DUers support bans, even as they deny the fact. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #7

Also MN and MO sarisataka Feb 2013 #9

Uh... G_j Feb 2013 #12

You might want to research Washington state bill SB 5737 Lurks Often Feb 2013 #13

I'm not an idiot G_j Feb 2013 #15

Not a joke sarisataka Feb 2013 #28

Norway has exactly that kind of regulation with regard to inspection of gun storage. CTyankee Feb 2013 #19

Fortunately we have the 4th Amendment to protect us from illegal searches n/t Lurks Often Feb 2013 #20

The searches are not illegal. They are part of the law in Norway. CTyankee Feb 2013 #24

I don't expect too many courts here in the US will agree. Lurks Often Feb 2013 #38

Oh, I think it is far more curious not to consider such a plan out of hand. CTyankee Feb 2013 #46

Not that tired argument again Lurks Often Feb 2013 #47

I haven't heard any proponents of any restrictions among 2nd amendment defenders here. CTyankee Feb 2013 #48

Of course Lurks Often Feb 2013 #50

All right, you say that is reasonable. I say that regular inspections can be reasonable. CTyankee Feb 2013 #52

I disagree Lurks Often Feb 2013 #63

there you go again...as I have carefully pointed out here, Norway is a constitutional democracy, CTyankee Feb 2013 #65

You're kidding right roxy1234 Feb 2013 #49

I take that as pretty strong antipathy to gun restrictions. CTyankee Feb 2013 #51

I do support many reasonable gun roxy1234 Feb 2013 #54

If that is true then you need a better PR strategy. You are obviously not driving your message CTyankee Feb 2013 #55

For the record roxy1234 Feb 2013 #57

just as I had to clarify what I see actually happening in these threads. The pro-gun side has CTyankee Feb 2013 #59

I've been reading DonB Feb 2013 #89

If the bill becomes law, the inspections will be legal. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #40

Do you really think a law allowing warrantless searches Lurks Often Feb 2013 #43

Is a regular inspection always a "warrantless search'? We have various public health inspections CTyankee Feb 2013 #56

Don't think the courts are going to view that way n/t Lurks Often Feb 2013 #62

oh, c'mon, you haven't answered my question. Have the courts said that restaurant CTyankee Feb 2013 #66

There is an enormous difference between a warrant-less search Lurks Often Feb 2013 #68

Oh, dear, again with "warrantless." If the law says inspection is legal, how can it be CTyankee Feb 2013 #69

Moot point Lurks Often Feb 2013 #70

I see. what a great thinking group of citizens in our democracy. how wonderful. CTyankee Feb 2013 #71

It is difficult for me to discern whether you are exultant about this "moot point" or CTyankee Feb 2013 #72

They won't be warrantless. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #96

Yeah that would be almost as ludicrous guardian Feb 2013 #104

Another excellent reason to vigorously oppose gun registration slackmaster Feb 2013 #95

Washington state bill SB 5737 rdharma Feb 2013 #87

It was yanked out when people noticed and started yelling. n/t Lurks Often Feb 2013 #90

Like I said...... wasn't even in the original bill nt rdharma Feb 2013 #91

Do try and do some basic research before posting, Lurks Often Feb 2013 #92

Go check the ORIGINAL submitted bill! rdharma Feb 2013 #93

You're the only one getting hysterical Lurks Often Feb 2013 #94

"bother to read the link?" rdharma Feb 2013 #97

Your research skills seem lacking Lurks Often Feb 2013 #99

language was in the original bill. rdharma Feb 2013 #100

It's lots of fun watching you avoid facts n/t Lurks Often Feb 2013 #102

"It's lots of fun watching you" rdharma Feb 2013 #103

Given the choice between sarisataka Feb 2013 #27

where is that documented? CTyankee Feb 2013 #34

Here sarisataka Feb 2013 #39

The laws in many states that enforce bans under penalty of law disprove #1 off the bat. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #83

Sorry, that's just bs propaganda. Skip Intro Feb 2013 #3

Believe that bullshit guardian Feb 2013 #4

Care to tell us what the lies are? nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #11

See my post #21 in this thread. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #22

Your "post #21" has been completely and thoroughly debunked: apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #81

Name one. I'll wait. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #78

funny how so far nobody is addressing the article's first paragraph: CTyankee Feb 2013 #5

I hunt and own guns but the NRA and the gun lovers want to deny one simple fact .... Botany Feb 2013 #8

Then why isnt Switzerland the wild wild west? davidn3600 Feb 2013 #10

Tell us about Switzerland's gun control laws vs. ours... CTyankee Feb 2013 #17

Wrong. Switzerland does not have more guns per capita then we do. DanTex Feb 2013 #26

#1: it's not full of Americans maxsolomon Feb 2013 #29

What you mean to say is we lead the world in belligerent idiots... and some of them are armed. n/t cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #41

Several points nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #32

Switzerland is the Wild West in Europe rightsideout Feb 2013 #61

Switzerland also has 100% gun registration. nt rdharma Feb 2013 #88

Duh! Just as pool drownings logically rise with proliferation of pools. TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #35

I don't think those who "harp on suicides" are contending that the guns CAUSE the suicides. maxsolomon Feb 2013 #37

Pool serve another purpose treestar Feb 2013 #45

What I find depressing is that most G_j Feb 2013 #14

I was wondering why I couldn't pinpoint what was so alarming about such responses here: CTyankee Feb 2013 #16

seems to be an automatic process G_j Feb 2013 #18

As if they were replies made by glib sociopaths, perhaps? Electric Monk Feb 2013 #42

Just watch out for the Morlocks here. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #6

Debunking the article GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #21

See you then! Robb Feb 2013 #23

LOL. By "debunking" you mean "repeating false NRA talking points". DanTex Feb 2013 #25

Thank you. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #33

+1000 ellisonz Feb 2013 #44

Banning "assault weapons" = banning guns derby378 Feb 2013 #64

Oh, I see. Whatever happened to your side and your vaunted "gun safety" concerns? CTyankee Feb 2013 #67

I have no idea what you're talking about derby378 Feb 2013 #73

why am I not surprised? That seems to be the face of the anti gun safety group on DU... CTyankee Feb 2013 #74

Get your memes straight derby378 Feb 2013 #75

No. Let me be clear. When I say "gun safety" I mean "gun safety." You want to make it about CTyankee Feb 2013 #77

I was wrong about you... derby378 Feb 2013 #80

No, you have the meme you want to cling to and not allow any further discussion of. What CTyankee Feb 2013 #82

You are not fooling anybody. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #108

gun safety is the real goal, IMO. Gun control is the means. We need more of it. CTyankee Feb 2013 #110

Ahhh, facts: they just continue to baffle our "pro gun progressives"*... apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #79

Perhaps YOU should read the article. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #107

With some people (NRA etc.) myths trump reality nt Progressive dog Feb 2013 #30

K&R nt Fresh_Start Feb 2013 #31

Love the list nt duhneece Feb 2013 #36

Wow I never realized their were so many stupid people on DU Drale Feb 2013 #53

Or: 10 Strawmen Shot Down. And you did so without even using the magic letters "NRA". AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #58

Red States compared to Blue States rightsideout Feb 2013 #60

The problem with that chart kudzu22 Feb 2013 #105

"Fact-check: Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 30 years: 0" - And yet apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #76

There have been several rampage shootings that were stopped by armed civilians. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #109

kick samsingh Feb 2013 #84

myth #4 samsingh Feb 2013 #85

Thank you libodem Feb 2013 #86

LOL @ "No one in Washington is proposing this." How about Amitai Etzioni, Professor of... slackmaster Feb 2013 #98

He's a "communalist" who thinks his way is the best way for everyone. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #106

We could get rid of guns in the streets, and still protect guns in the home graham4anything Feb 2013 #101

No, this is Dpm12 Feb 2013 #111

recommend these important facts samsingh Feb 2013 #112