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AndyA

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6. Congress was lied to, just like the American people
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:18 PM
Feb 2013

They were told of WMDs, confirmed, as were we. Condi Rice warned of the possibility of a mushroom cloud. We were told we would be in and out quickly.

Had Congress been told the truth, that there was no verifiable evidence of WMDs, no connection with OBL, no connection with 9/11, that the two wars would last about a decade or longer, and would cost well over $1,426,446,030,970 before they were through--all of which would be borrowed money added to the deficit, how many Democrats would have voted NO instead of YES?

I was against the wars from the beginning as well, but the facts weren't exactly clear, and the media kept beating the war drum, which caused a lot of people to support the war.

We'll likely never know the outcome had the lies not been so rampant, but I still blame the GOP/Bush Administration for lying the country into wars that were unnecessary. I'm not defending anyone's vote, but if everyone had been told the truth from the beginning, I doubt we would have initiated military action. We would have found OBL and dealt with him, but the argument for going into a bloodbath in Iraq and Afghanistan would have been pretty weak.

Joe [View all] Scuba Feb 2013 OP
You tell 'em, Joe. HappyMe Feb 2013 #1
My thought exactly! nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #13
Gotta love him. He's the original BFD. pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #2
I only wish we'd hear such sharp-edged candor Plucketeer Feb 2013 #15
+3 kurtzapril4 Feb 2013 #38
Yeah working out great isn't it? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2013 #41
BFD...that says it perfectly! Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #39
Whoa. That reminds me of another great quote from Cold Mountain. Baitball Blogger Feb 2013 #3
If I remember correctly.. FiggyJay Feb 2013 #4
Yes he did.. but did he vote to not fund them? Did anyone? mountain grammy Feb 2013 #5
Congress was lied to, just like the American people AndyA Feb 2013 #6
Yeggzactly so. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #30
Joe was lied to Lordquinton Feb 2013 #7
he knew better... come on NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #37
I think so too. nt. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2013 #42
so you're psychic now? Lordquinton Feb 2013 #48
he was smart enough to know better NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #51
My thoughts exactly. (nt) harmonicon Feb 2013 #36
He didn't vote for the tax cuts.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #40
Joe is a great VP. progressivejazzredux Feb 2013 #8
I thought he would have made a great one in 2008, too! :-) gateley Feb 2013 #53
Just Like Harry Truman chuckstevens Feb 2013 #9
K&R - nt Ohio Joe Feb 2013 #10
If there isn't a Dem President in 2016. Lobo27 Feb 2013 #11
There's no oil in N. Korea. It'll be Iran. Scuba Feb 2013 #12
Welcome to DU, Lobo27! calimary Feb 2013 #16
By jove, I think she's got it!!! summerschild Feb 2013 #18
+1 freshwest Feb 2013 #31
Had the righties been in during the Arab spring toby jo Feb 2013 #17
NEVER forget!!!!! calimary Feb 2013 #14
just slap the mofo, joe! spanone Feb 2013 #19
This is why . . . Brigid Feb 2013 #20
I loves me some Joe Biden ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #21
shushh, the Media is SLEEPING! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #22
Can I kick this twice? tecelote Feb 2013 #23
! lonestarnot Feb 2013 #24
FuckinA progressoid Feb 2013 #25
Love this guy. Glimmer of Hope Feb 2013 #26
I love you Joe!!!!!!!!!! onecent Feb 2013 #27
SEIZED! That's the perfect word for it! tosh Feb 2013 #28
Yup.....how soon people forget Historic NY Feb 2013 #29
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #32
Harry Truman said it best: "I don't give them Hell, I just tell the truth, and they think it's Hell" NeeDeep Feb 2013 #33
I'll drink to that. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #34
God I loved that debate. dorkulon Feb 2013 #35
I did also. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #46
This should be repeated by all Democrats to the media daily MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #43
I like this idea. However, do you think the results would be worth the effort? rhett o rick Feb 2013 #47
I would vote for Joe before Hilary! Would Hilary be the corporation shill her husband was? Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #44
No one has said it better, PatSeg Feb 2013 #45
Ryan was outed as an empty suit, and a not very bright one at that debate. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #49
K/R moondust Feb 2013 #50
I LOVE THIS MAN! gateley Feb 2013 #52
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