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msanthrope

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15. The school is PUBLIC. The corporation that is contracted by the government
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:58 PM
Feb 2013

to run the school is a non-governmental non-profit, per the Illinois laws overseeing charters.

Because the entity that hires the teachers is a non-profit, non-governmental organization, the teachers must organize their union under the auspices of the NLRB, not under the auspices of Illinois state law which only provides for teachers employed by governmental entities. The teachers CAN STILL ORGANIZE.

It makes sense because you are talking about two distinct entities--the school, and the contractor that runs it. The teachers are employed by the latter to service the former.

Think about it this way--if I contract an organization to provide food service to a public school, do the food service employees become government workers? No. Same goes for charter school teachers.





The reformers are literally buying education. madfloridian Feb 2013 #1
I'd like to see campaign cash staying within the borders of the state involved.. SoCalDem Feb 2013 #2
Agreed. Plus these amounts in a local race are simply overkill. madfloridian Feb 2013 #3
Privatized charter schools discriminate against kids with disabilities as SOP KamaAina Feb 2013 #4
The NLRB declared a charter school a private school. No one noticed at all. madfloridian Feb 2013 #5
What gives the NLRB the right to interfere with state law? KamaAina Feb 2013 #6
Madfloridian did not describe the NLRB decision correctly....I urge you to read it. msanthrope Feb 2013 #10
I described the whole outrage correctly. Clearly and correctly. madfloridian Feb 2013 #22
No--they didn't. The first line of the decision directly contradicts what you wrote---- msanthrope Feb 2013 #7
Not going down this road again with you. madfloridian Feb 2013 #11
Kindly cite from the decision, madflo, the EXACT law you think this public school is being being msanthrope Feb 2013 #12
Is that school private or public? madfloridian Feb 2013 #13
The school is PUBLIC. The corporation that is contracted by the government msanthrope Feb 2013 #15
So you agree teachers are employed by a private company? madfloridian Feb 2013 #16
Madfloridian, this is the Illinois law regarding charters--- msanthrope Feb 2013 #21
A school can not change from public to private at their convenience. Now about Rhee, Bloomberg? madfloridian Feb 2013 #24
The school isn't changing...who runs it, does. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #26
Private entity. hay rick Feb 2013 #17
The charter fired the teacher who led in organizing. Got away with it. madfloridian Feb 2013 #19
I think organizing jurisdiction may still be a subject of dispute. hay rick Feb 2013 #27
Cost of litigation....exactly. Who can afford to fight back against such huge money? madfloridian Feb 2013 #28
CMSA, Inc, is not the school. It is what runs the school through a 5-year charter. msanthrope Feb 2013 #25
Would the Chicago Public Schools be considered "a political subdivision of the state of Illinois"? KamaAina Feb 2013 #18
But CPS isn't the employer. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #23
now I know who NOT to vote for Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #8
Rupert Murdoch is also a StudentsFirst donor. hay rick Feb 2013 #9
There is almost no alarm that big money is buying out public schools. madfloridian Feb 2013 #14
We will have a new generation of good little wage slaves. hay rick Feb 2013 #30
..... madfloridian Feb 2013 #31
people only notice when there is one, really, really, big disaster in front of them and even then liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #33
k&r Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #20
Jesus Christ on a dinosaur. hay rick Feb 2013 #29
Yes. A religious community could take over a school, urged on by such a charter. madfloridian Feb 2013 #34
K&R hay rick Feb 2013 #32
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