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graham4anything

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Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:18 AM
Feb 2013

I am not trying to tear down Warren, whom I like as Senator and wish her to be senator, health permitting for 3 to 4 terms, 18 to 24 years.

the old 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon is so boring.
Some people actually hate the great Zbig B.(Jimmy Carter's admin.) because of some antiquidated link.

very silly.

Lots of people attended the democratic convention in 1968 and some sure didn't have the long range democratic interests at heart, being that the great LBJ was sold down the river earlier and an inferior candidate running on the baggage and without the advantages was nominated, and it directly led to a major loss.

the 1960s were like so yesterday, and totally irrelvant in 2013 anyhow.By 2016, it will be 50 years ago.

So vis a vis indeed, both are one and the same, Hillary and Warren.

and note in the above speech, she said war is a go after other avenues are exhausted.

but again vis a vis they are one and the same except for some small stuff, but Hillary has far vast experience and resume. Thankfully both are on Team Obama to coin a phrase. Which is my point.

Huh? Regarding Iraq, Hillary voted for the invasion. TheDebbieDee Feb 2013 #1
I never said the two views were the same on Iraq. I know the difference. graham4anything Feb 2013 #2
You're in denial about Hillary's long legacy as a lead advocate of regime change. Warren doesn't leveymg Feb 2013 #5
You have no evidence of the reverse. graham4anything Feb 2013 #12
Actually, Warren condemned the Iraq War. leveymg Feb 2013 #14
see graham4anything Feb 2013 #15
Ok. We can agree on some of this. But, foreign policy record matters, anyway. A lot. leveymg Feb 2013 #22
John V. Lindsay was one of the greatest liberals of all time. True populist. graham4anything Feb 2013 #24
John Lindsay and Jacob Javits wouldn't recognize today's GOP, which has become Wallace Democrats leveymg Feb 2013 #27
Warren had zero political record before she ran for the Senate. Beacool Feb 2013 #30
Hillary did not vote for "the invasion". DURHAM D Feb 2013 #3
When Bush decided to invade she supported his decision over weapon inspectors who reported blm Feb 2013 #28
Obama gave a speech about it, didn't do much more. Beacool Feb 2013 #29
There's that old chestnut again. AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #33
Why do people fabricate strawman arguments in GD? bluedigger Feb 2013 #4
Actually, the opposite graham4anything Feb 2013 #8
Of course neither Clinton nor Obama 'gave up their current job' to run for President. Both remained Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #19
2016 is not 2008 which was a revolution. 2016 is for a continuation graham4anything Feb 2013 #21
Iraq invasion which is a hot topic this week, was supported by Hillary's vote while Obama said Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #6
Same trick Dean pulled: get angry on TV, and progressives fall for you Recursion Feb 2013 #7
Yup. and Dean was Dukakissed. graham4anything Feb 2013 #10
LOLOLOLOLOL! MadHound Feb 2013 #9
Disagree. All 3 are on the same page.except for a wedge or two,which everyone has. graham4anything Feb 2013 #11
LBJ is hard to describe. Jennicut Feb 2013 #23
It is more of a difference in style rather than policy Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #13
Why do I bother reading these posts? WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #16
HRC kept her head down early on during her senate time SoCalDem Feb 2013 #17
no, you got that all wrong graham4anything Feb 2013 #18
Hillary is playing it safe for a presidential run, Liz Warren is right where she wants to be. reformist2 Feb 2013 #20
Personally i hope Hillary doesn't get involved in any wedge issue from now til then. graham4anything Feb 2013 #26
Message auto-removed Kevski Feb 2013 #25
Or Rahm Emanuel's? Or Andrew Cuomo's? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #31
They are both strong and wonderful women to have on our side. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #32
In the best of both worlds we may have both. Beacool Feb 2013 #34
Who are these "people of which you speak? stlsaxman Feb 2013 #35
As much as I dislike her foreign policy, Hilary has always backed unions Taverner Feb 2013 #36
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