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leveymg

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18. What's your source for "opposed by Biden, Thomas Donilon and Susan Rice."?
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:12 AM
Feb 2013

The evidence suggests that Libyan SAM-7s were first received in some numbers by the opposition in Syria before Benghazi. The fighting between opposition factions over the cargo carried by the Libyan freighter that docked in Turkey in late August, early September attracted a lot of unwanted international attention. Notice that nobody is using exact dates as to Obama's decision to hold off (cease?) these shipments.

Unless we accept this was going on under the noses of both USG agencies, this suggests the possibility that Petraeus and/or Clinton may have been running an off-the-books program (perhaps without an express Presidential finding), that was only halted when its existence leaked wide open. It looks like some effort was being made to freeze-out the Saudi/GCC-backed Jihadi militia from receiving these Libyan SAMs, and that blew the operation's cover. It was a question based in fact, and Clinton's response is telling.

McCain's Benghazi obsession is that the US didn't fully follow-through and arm the Syrian rebels leveymg Feb 2013 #1
McCain is upset because we didn't arm Syrian rebels. Rand Paul is upset because he thinks we did. pampango Feb 2013 #14
She wouldn't make much of a poker player. Her response is pure "neither confirm nor deny." leveymg Feb 2013 #15
Or maybe that is what makes a good poker player. pampango Feb 2013 #17
What's your source for "opposed by Biden, Thomas Donilon and Susan Rice."? leveymg Feb 2013 #18
NY Times article last night on Obama reconsidering arming the rebels: TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #20
Thanks - please see my response, #22, immediately below. leveymg Feb 2013 #24
I read this to imply that Susan Rice wanted a direct US military intervention, leveymg Feb 2013 #22
Biden and Donilon 'advised against it' and Rice was 'skeptical'. The article does not indicate that pampango Feb 2013 #28
Read these two sentences together, and that's what it says about Rice's position. leveymg Feb 2013 #30
No it does not. pampango Feb 2013 #31
Recall last May, Rice was pushing for Iraq-style US-NATO action outside a UNSC authorization. leveymg Feb 2013 #34
"Rice did not specify what 'actions' she meant." "There are fears that her words could mean pampango Feb 2013 #35
What else could Rice mean other than "the threat of military action"? That's certainly how they leveymg Feb 2013 #36
A New York Times artcie in yesterday's paper. pampango Feb 2013 #23
Most of the GOP critique is a sort of red herring, and only one publicly addressed the real issue. leveymg Feb 2013 #25
Dream on. mccain will just swear at the panel and walk away. Javaman Feb 2013 #2
I sure as hell wish he'd be confronted by this. . .n/t annabanana Feb 2013 #3
Now you're talkin' libodem Feb 2013 #4
As usual, Republicans set the fires thesquanderer Feb 2013 #5
St. John McCain doth protest too much, Methinks formercia Feb 2013 #6
Note to St. John McCain: formercia Feb 2013 #7
it's a bit clearer to me why the President's held off arming Syrian resistance fighters bigtree Feb 2013 #8
The President sets Foreign Policy formercia Feb 2013 #12
To tell John2 Feb 2013 #9
You're implying that we have a media that will hold him accountable. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2013 #10
It sure looks like the Ambassador is saying to himself, sheshe2 Feb 2013 #11
. bigtree Feb 2013 #13
He Playes The Corporate Media Like A Violin... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #16
k&r... spanone Feb 2013 #19
Amazing how involved he and the GOP were in Libya. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #21
"Shut up with the damn facts. Grrrrrr." - Sen. Grumpy Grampy (R) Berlum Feb 2013 #26
I get what you're doing, but... Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #27
FOX news wouldn't report this bigtree Feb 2013 #29
McCain is in real life what Ned Beatty's ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #32
Right after Lucifer borrows some propane from me Recursion Feb 2013 #33
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