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Cobalt Violet

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36. Maybe if low income people were paid more they afford to be pet owners.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:40 PM
Feb 2013

That might mean less in the shelters. I'm on my last pet ever since I can no longer afford vet bills. If I were paid a living wage I could do my part by owning 2 cats and donating to shelters. It's out of the question now. Very sad future for me without a cat.

and if the company goes out of business - or fires 3 to pay for the salary uptick el_bryanto Feb 2013 #1
Right. If a business cannot survive it goes out of business Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #2
unless it's wall street or a major corporation. then you get a bailout and a government-assisted HiPointDem Feb 2013 #3
Right. That's bullshit too. Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #5
but that's not happening. meanwhile, small business is dying and every nook and cranny HiPointDem Feb 2013 #8
wrong. there are some niches in which small business is thriving. cali Feb 2013 #14
Yes, true n/t Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #19
the statistics say otherwise. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #34
not that you've provided any evidence for that claim. cali Feb 2013 #46
Do you think it woudl be worthwhile to look at how many small busniesses would close? el_bryanto Feb 2013 #4
Absolutely. Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #6
If we can subsidize farmers, we can subsidize the truly small business. Lars39 Feb 2013 #33
Yes. PotatoChip Feb 2013 #55
No, the small business might survive OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #73
Where are you getting these numbers? starroute Feb 2013 #84
Such a small business would not be affected Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #89
and that the business can not produce the same goods. robinlynne Feb 2013 #98
And also recessions Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #88
There must be a list of all the small businesses that went out of business in 2007 Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #16
We've done tons of natural experiments on this subject jeff47 Feb 2013 #75
I'm not sure how that would help my business... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #78
And when your customers make more money in their businesses jeff47 Feb 2013 #80
If they go out of business it will because the demand for their goods or services isn't there. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #83
If a company is devolved enough to have the stark choice LanternWaste Feb 2013 #87
It highlights why the system may be beyond the point of no return davidn3600 Feb 2013 #7
+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #9
No doubt it is a serious spiral Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #10
Many small businesses pay their employees more than the large corporations do. Cleita Feb 2013 #11
I support small biz whenever I can Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #13
My answer is in the links cali Feb 2013 #12
Do you have any idea what it takes to own a small business? Light House Feb 2013 #15
A "living wage" numerical value will vary according to location Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #17
I misunderstood you. Light House Feb 2013 #22
I disagree - I don't believe that every job needs to pay a living wage.... riverbenddem Feb 2013 #54
That's how the slippery slope begins Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #59
That may work in a strong economy, but... white_wolf Feb 2013 #74
But why is the responsibility for the bad economy turned onto the small businessperson? riverbenddem Feb 2013 #77
But of what level of quality are we talking about? OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #76
history is not on your side. nebenaube Feb 2013 #47
Maybe you should read post #29. Light House Feb 2013 #51
Gee I thought you were a policeman Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #49
I never said I was a cop. Light House Feb 2013 #58
that kinda stuff is creepy as hell datasuspect Feb 2013 #66
I don't know what I did to attract this persons attention. Light House Feb 2013 #67
it's better to just ignore them datasuspect Feb 2013 #68
I'm really hesitant to put anyone on ignore Light House Feb 2013 #69
If you think I am stalking you, which I am not Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #92
I see no reason to take such a minor problem to the Admins. Light House Feb 2013 #93
Ah, didn't think you would Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #94
Check Light House' profile now Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #102
Interesting thread. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #18
What about the non-profits? YarnAddict Feb 2013 #20
Yeah, there are some tricky exceptions Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #23
The good thing about the minimum wage being raised gollygee Feb 2013 #27
Minimum wage workers that work for nonprofit organizations should get a subsidy. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #30
Maybe if low income people were paid more they afford to be pet owners. Cobalt Violet Feb 2013 #36
Because "owners" get all the money, everybody knows that. nt bemildred Feb 2013 #21
That's not true at all. Light House Feb 2013 #24
Way to miss the point n/t Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #25
Not true. cali Feb 2013 #26
I'm one of those Light House Feb 2013 #29
You are one of those doing it right Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #31
Thanks. Light House Feb 2013 #35
They shouldn't. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #28
Are you sure you're in the right place? Light House Feb 2013 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Feb 2013 #95
I agree with you. I seldom eat out any more because I can't afford to tip. Cleita Feb 2013 #38
Funny - that's really not a liberal viewpoint. It's actually very RW/libertarian/dog eat dog-ish. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #39
You have to blame our system, not the employees or the POV of this poster. Cleita Feb 2013 #52
I've done the math and for most of the last 21 years I have actually made less per hour than kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #37
I could easily expand my operation, purchase more equipment, hire drivers...and take a pay cut. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #42
Advocating for a living wage is equivalent to attacking small biz owners? Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #43
That's a common tale Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #90
Minimum wage is the boss's way of saying "if I could pay you less, I would" MindPilot Feb 2013 #40
Small businesses can't afford to pay a living wage when no one else is gollygee Feb 2013 #41
I agree bluestateguy Feb 2013 #44
a dollar or two an hour would NOT raise wages to a living wage anywhere in the country. cali Feb 2013 #50
They should not. If they can't pay someone properly they need to do the work their damn selves. we can do it Feb 2013 #45
gad. cali Feb 2013 #56
Who said $16? I thought we were talking $10, and a great idea shouldn't need an army of workers. we can do it Feb 2013 #85
Small business owner here. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #48
I think your experience is typical Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #53
See what you are saying and agree. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #57
Small businesses are corporations. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #70
Less than a living wage is shortening lives. Lint Head Feb 2013 #60
and the forcing of small business to pay a livable wage cali Feb 2013 #63
business regulations are written by big business JCMach1 Feb 2013 #61
Not at all true in my state. cali Feb 2013 #64
in FL it is unfortunately JCMach1 Feb 2013 #96
Realistically I doubt Third Doctor Feb 2013 #62
K&R forestpath Feb 2013 #71
Depends entirely on how much "a living wage" is. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #72
I wish there was a formula. Cleita Feb 2013 #81
Depending on the type of business drmeow Feb 2013 #79
I would be ashamed of myself if I cheapassed my staff. TygrBright Feb 2013 #82
If they don't pay people a living wage, the taxpayer has to pick up the difference in the Squinch Feb 2013 #86
I've owned and operated a couple businesses over the years PD Turk Feb 2013 #91
A living minimum income for all is a basic right. libtodeath Feb 2013 #97
Not to worry. US tax payers subsidize them with food stamps and free health care clinics. L0oniX Feb 2013 #100
Compare the wage you feel people should get with an RFID system that can instantly tally your dkf Feb 2013 #101
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