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brentspeak

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28. The rate increase will not improve USPS' finances

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 04:23 PM

Feb 2013

Only getting rid of the $5.5 billion/year prefunding requirement for hypothetical as-yet unborn future USPS retirees will.

And the price increases are certainly out of order in this case, as low-weight First Class International shipments are cost-effective for the service (i.e, USPS transports all this stuff on the cheap already).

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On Jan. 27, 2013, Obama instituted the largest tariff on U.S. small businesses in American history [View all] brentspeak Feb 2013 OP

Pardon me jehop61 Feb 2013 #1

The USPS is an independent, not private, agency of the US government brentspeak Feb 2013 #4

What does President Obama have to do with the Post Office? n/t ProSense Feb 2013 #2

Answer: brentspeak Feb 2013 #3

That's not an answer. ProSense Feb 2013 #5

Typical obfuscation on your part brentspeak Feb 2013 #21

Stop highlighting stuff you don't understand. ProSense Feb 2013 #22

Instead, I posted stuff brentspeak Feb 2013 #25

LOL! ProSense Feb 2013 #26

The reality is that Obama's own PRC chairman brentspeak Feb 2013 #27

2 of 5 members of Board of Governors were appointed by President Obama. elleng Feb 2013 #38

I call bullshit. The people were nominated based upon experience. You are implying that bluestate10 Feb 2013 #68

So the USPS is going down and your main concern is that Pres Obama shouldnt be blamed? nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #9

I see ProSense Feb 2013 #11

So do you approve of the price hikes or not? nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #15

Why exactly do you think I would agree with the price hikes? ProSense Feb 2013 #20

I guess I didnt know since your only comment was about the President. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #34

Well, this thread ProSense Feb 2013 #39

If the price hikes reflect the true cost of delivering the packages, YES. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #69

This has nothing to do with me. These prices hikes will affect small businesses rhett o rick Feb 2013 #72

our public institutions are disappearing before our very eyes and democrats are silent liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #12

Seems to me that a lot of the Democratic politicians are satisfied with the argument that it isnt rhett o rick Feb 2013 #16

No, it is obvious the OP wants to make sure he gets blamed treestar Feb 2013 #17

What "longstanding problems" does the OP poster have? nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #36

I don't think that's a tariff ("tax" or "duty" on imports/exports) bhikkhu Feb 2013 #6

The rate increase will not improve USPS' finances brentspeak Feb 2013 #28

Your examples are about as skewed as they could be bhikkhu Feb 2013 #37

I can tell right away that you have no experience in this area at all brentspeak Feb 2013 #41

I suppose you have a good point as far as ebay sellers bhikkhu Feb 2013 #46

blame the President for Teabagger destruction? sigmasix Feb 2013 #7

So you are saying that raising these prices is a good move? Or a bad move but not the Pres fault?nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #10

wishing on a star sigmasix Feb 2013 #18

I want the damage done by the teabaggers undone. I said nothing shining blame on the President. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #35

the only game being played sigmasix Feb 2013 #47

I dont appreciate posters that call me names and lie about what I said. Please just go away. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #61

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #62

It is not my OP. Now go annoy someone else. You will be my first ignore. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #64

200 years ago the USPS was the only game in town, DreamGypsy Feb 2013 #8

Not quite clear what you're trying to say brentspeak Feb 2013 #14

Even blaming Goldway seems ridiculous treestar Feb 2013 #19

"And the small business angle you brought in yourself. It will affect everyone." brentspeak Feb 2013 #23

everything is cheaper in bulk treestar Feb 2013 #44

President Obama has nothing to do with the downfall of the USPS... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #13

He already won re-election. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #24

Well, this is just ProSense Feb 2013 #29

Let me be the one to say it .... Trajan Feb 2013 #30

SMALL businesses are trying to "wipe out decent wages for US workers"??? brentspeak Feb 2013 #31

Yeah ... Not only do they despise decent wages and compensation for workers Trajan Feb 2013 #32

This is...er, uh... brentspeak Feb 2013 #33

i've literally seen it all datasuspect Feb 2013 #63

OMG: President Obama ProSense Feb 2013 #40

Probably because brentspeak Feb 2013 #42

You should ProSense Feb 2013 #43

Well, I do imagine the staff at Obama PR headquarters brentspeak Feb 2013 #49

"I do imagine the staff at Obama PR headquarters-- where you work at" ProSense Feb 2013 #50

You mean there's another conspiracy afloat? treestar Feb 2013 #45

So Obama posted those threads about stamp price increases himself? brentspeak Feb 2013 #48

Even with a rate increase, USPS international rates stomp UPS and Fedex. Hoyt Feb 2013 #51

No, the new rates are only marginally cheaper than UPS and FedEx brentspeak Feb 2013 #52

I've shipped a number of musical instruments overseas and UPS/FEX rates are prohibitive and Hoyt Feb 2013 #58

This rate changes involves lightweight items brentspeak Feb 2013 #59

Are you sure volume will decrease that much. In any event, sorry you are impacted. Hoyt Feb 2013 #60

I guess it's all part of trying to make the USPS profitable? Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #53

The Postal Service isn't supposed to make a profit brentspeak Feb 2013 #54

Oh, that's right. Well, make it break even, then? It must be in debt, since costs have exceeded Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #75

There should be no such THING as "profit" for the USPS, as there is none with NASA, the DoD, FEMA, WinkyDink Feb 2013 #55

You're right! I forgot that for a sec! nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #76

"I don't really understand the pension prepayment funding issue." hay rick Feb 2013 #57

I see. I thought it was the health care portion of pensions. That sucks. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #74

Since USPS doesn't own any airplanes, haven't their contracted costs gone up with energy prices? FarCenter Feb 2013 #56

Not sure how it will devastate online sellers - lynne Feb 2013 #65

maybe the op would rather we raise the cost of a first class stamp to better reflect costs in other rdking647 Feb 2013 #66

Considering the amount of money the are hemorrhaging I'm ok with this. bamacrat Feb 2013 #67

Obama also changed the formula for envelope glue so that it tastes yuckier Orrex Feb 2013 #70

That's a lick too far! He just lost my vote in 2016! nt pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #71

i smell FAIL in this OP... dionysus Feb 2013 #73