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woo me with science

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23. Money needs to come out of the elections first,
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 11:26 AM
Feb 2013

or none of this speculation matters a whit.

This is not a matter of individual politicians and their whims and personalities. It is a SYSTEMIC problem. The system has been rigged and restructured so that nobody who is not in the back pocket of corporations has a chance. With their billions, the oligarchs will select the candidates they want for both parties and destroy anyone else who tries.

If you want real change, the corporate money must come out of the elections before the next campaign. Otherwise we will get more of the same....an election with two candidates who will offer slight variations on the very same agenda: the agenda of the one percent. And once again, Democrats will elect a corporatist and warmonger who will continue to escalate the policies that are impoverishing millions of us....because the only other option will be even worse.

This is the game now. It's reality. And if we care about real change, reform of the purchased system is where all our energies need to be focused.....because in the absence of it, we will continue to get more of the same.

All the hope and excited speculation in the world will not change that.

Elizabeth Warren 2016 NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #1
I'm leaning that way, too rocktivity Feb 2013 #2
Elizabeth doesn't have as much experience or prestige. Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #8
I personally don't think that Clinton's record is particularly progressive. NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #9
We should both do what we think best...but not to badmouth the other one and Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #21
There is no comparison between the two. Whisp Feb 2013 #14
She'll turn 75 in 2024. eom tarheelsunc Feb 2013 #19
I like Elizabeth MFM008 Feb 2013 #3
I think Hillary's peak of popularity is past. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #4
Feb. 8, 2013: Hillary "easily the most popular" person in politics, ThatPoetGuy Feb 2013 #5
this is the same media that sold the Iraq war. Whisp Feb 2013 #15
So studies and polls are less valid than gut feelings? ThatPoetGuy Feb 2013 #24
I don't think a candidate should be chosen based on race or ethnicity or gender. Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #13
Hillary is more popular now than she was in 2008 JI7 Feb 2013 #17
She looks good on a bumper sticker...in the White House not so much. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #6
I've had enough of Clintons and their ilk. +1 for Warren RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #7
How about a generic bumper sticker that SheilaT Feb 2013 #10
Oh boy, I can see from the reactions to your OP how this nomination process is going to go stevenleser Feb 2013 #11
Too soon. It'll turn people off and have the opposite effect. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #12
Hillary Swank would be okay. Whisp Feb 2013 #16
Hilary Duff? BlueStater Feb 2013 #18
very lovely woman. What does she think of the sanctions against Iraq during the Clinton admin? Whisp Feb 2013 #20
Such lunacy. treestar Feb 2013 #22
Money needs to come out of the elections first, woo me with science Feb 2013 #23
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