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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
57. The what is the point?
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:54 AM
Feb 2013

It takes hours to get the people on and off at a port designed for that purpose.

Let's say 1500 people wanted to get off, and there was anothe vessel handy to accommodate them and willing to take the liability for doing so. How many a minute are you going to transfer, and make everyone else wait for that to happen?

In your calculation, please show what figure you are using for the percentage chance of injury or death. Because at 1%, you are going to injure or kill 15 people.

PTSD has physical manifestations. A good crew of lawyers could file a MADem Feb 2013 #1
The offer of a free cruise is in my opinion simply sneering contempt snagglepuss Feb 2013 #2
I agree. They'll probably raise their booze prices on other trips to MADem Feb 2013 #9
so what would be acceptable? rdking647 Feb 2013 #3
It's not so much the engine fire, riqster Feb 2013 #4
Twenty grand per, plus refund and expense pay outs--that'll teach 'em to not pull that shit again. MADem Feb 2013 #8
taking them off teh vessel wasnt a real option rdking647 Feb 2013 #10
Sure it was; that thing was dead in the water. MADem Feb 2013 #19
4000 people.... over open water to another ship rdking647 Feb 2013 #22
All might not have wanted to go, but those that wanted to go should have been MADem Feb 2013 #42
They could have used the lifeboats Politicalboi Feb 2013 #54
Easier--and way safer--to just do a "tender transfer." MADem Feb 2013 #58
The what is the point? jberryhill Feb 2013 #57
Not if you do a tender transfer. You could do it fairly quickly. MADem Feb 2013 #59
When the stabilizers are working jberryhill Feb 2013 #62
What beggars belief is that when they finally got on land snagglepuss Feb 2013 #14
Also, from what some of the passengers were saying, MADem Feb 2013 #72
That sounds reasonable to me me b zola Feb 2013 #17
Sure, I could go that high, easily! MADem Feb 2013 #20
Whatever will HURT leftynyc Feb 2013 #12
the "mechanical failure" is apparently result of trying to save money dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #18
...which will also fail on other procedural grounds jberryhill Feb 2013 #28
Well, time will tell. We'll just have to see. MADem Feb 2013 #30
I didn't say these people didn't suffer jberryhill Feb 2013 #34
If they all sue individually, they don't need to worry about a class action suit limitation. MADem Feb 2013 #41
I think you are too ready to say "Don't even try." jberryhill Feb 2013 #44
Very informative post. Thanks. n/t tammywammy Feb 2013 #45
The jury in the Court of Public Opinion is already weighing in on Carnival's offer, and they're MADem Feb 2013 #48
People DIED in the Costa Concordia jberryhill Feb 2013 #55
But that was "over there." Not here, in good old America! MADem Feb 2013 #56
This is just another day in the life, for Carnival jberryhill Feb 2013 #60
The ship wasn't American or in America jberryhill Feb 2013 #61
I realize that, but Carnival markets to a US audience. MADem Feb 2013 #63
jberryhill had a good post about this yesterday... SidDithers Feb 2013 #5
Will they stay in business? Spirochete Feb 2013 #6
it may mean a SMALL hit to business in the short term rdking647 Feb 2013 #7
Then they'll keep on having screw ups customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #32
So -each passenger can sue leftynyc Feb 2013 #11
The terms of the contract probably require the guest to agree to hold Carnival harmless Bake Feb 2013 #15
Someome needs to watch.. 1983law Feb 2013 #66
People need to find a good lawyer versed in maritime law nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #13
Which actions?...nt SidDithers Feb 2013 #16
Clauses like these often do not hold up. cbayer Feb 2013 #21
whose law do you use rdking647 Feb 2013 #23
It's US owned and flagged, no? cbayer Feb 2013 #24
Bahamian flagged nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #26
The Jones Act is a bad law and should be repealed anyway. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #64
Repealing the Jones Act would allow ships to use cheaper labor and ships build davidpdx Feb 2013 #67
So we can use cheaper labor nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #68
it's not just "cheaper labour" Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #70
Maritime law and treaties nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #25
And there is even a treaty on maritime personal injury claims jberryhill Feb 2013 #29
question: joeunderdog Feb 2013 #47
Two things jberryhill Feb 2013 #53
They'll just file for bankruptcy..... llmart Feb 2013 #27
+1 CrispyQ Feb 2013 #33
Are you referring to the membership in the 1% club? llmart Feb 2013 #36
More like the .01% club - membership in the "artificial entities" club - CrispyQ Feb 2013 #43
No one will file for bankruptcy. former9thward Feb 2013 #37
They already own most of them. Princess is part of Carnival... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #51
Lawyers can get around those agreements BainsBane Feb 2013 #31
I agree with you. llmart Feb 2013 #35
How much? jberryhill Feb 2013 #38
Class action lawsuits make lawyers rich not people. nt XRubicon Feb 2013 #39
I will never give this POS company my money. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #40
You win all Carnival threads for life! jberryhill Feb 2013 #46
A PR Disaster On Top Of A PR Disaster... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #49
Carnival also pays _Nothing_ in taxes, runs a casino on shipboard, and their backup plan... sfpcjock Feb 2013 #50
That ship supposedly had engine trouble Politicalboi Feb 2013 #52
Still...I'd rather have engine trouble out at sea than engine trouble in the air davidn3600 Feb 2013 #65
A fire at sea is just as dangerous. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #69
Two (legal) Words: Bad Faith ..... fine print won't work with something like this. -nt democrat2thecore Feb 2013 #71
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