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In reply to the discussion: What "due process" does not mean: [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)142. I dare say had you been a cop within range of his
.50 caliber rifle (capable of piercing body armor and car engine blocks) you would not consider him to be harmless and not a threat to anyone but himself.
Saddam Hussein surrendered. Dorner did not.
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A large portion of DU thinks that it's never okay for cops to kill someone.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#2
Can you offer even ONE link saying that, much less enough to prove a 'large portion'?
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#47
You missed all the hysterical claims that this was a lynching, murder, vigilantism,
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#50
Are you seriously asking how they didn't know that the standard tear gas didn't
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#76
Due process does not require them to sit there forever waiting for the guy.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#89
The PD can not decide to kill based upon what they unilaterally determine is in the best interest of
EOTE
Feb 2013
#100
When a suspect is armed, dangerous, has killed, kidnapped, and carjacked and has refused to
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#104
So you think that police have the right to murder anyone that doesn't surrender to them. Got it.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#178
Doesn't getting due process pretty much equal not being able to kill regardless of the threat?
dkf
Feb 2013
#92
And that's the nub of the issue--not only are the police 'allowed to use deadly force,' they
MADem
Feb 2013
#84
How are YOU so sure he wasn't already injured and unable to come out when the place got purposely
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#208
You are talking about two different police departments, so stop with the "they" nonsense.
MADem
Feb 2013
#217
Not defending that guy......are you defending the ends justifying the means?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#225
Half Baked conspiracies? I have the audio archive to PROVE they fired incendiary devices
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#229
You don't have "evidence." You have words you are interpreting in a specific way to suit your
MADem
Feb 2013
#234
No I have an actual audio recording ......admit it....you never even listened to see what I had!
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#235
So that means YOU DIDN'T listen to the actual police scanner audio tape archived right?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#237
Reached it the same way you can....you can hear the orders with your own ears
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#206
the sent "incendiary devices" into that building and then denied that they started the fire
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#207
No, we ask that due process is followed regardless of whether or not the cops are really angry.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#53
did they bother to ask the old ladies delivering newspapers to surrender? Or the surfer?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#211
Jeffery Dahmer had heads in his fridge....yet he was asked to surrender....he got due process
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#213
They "asked him to surrender" like they asked those two old ladies in the pickup to surrender?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#209
I am not defending him.....but are you defending the ends justify the means?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#224
In the case of subduing an armed, murderous lunatic, yes tear gas was justified.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#227
Based on his manifesto, I am pretty sure he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory.
LisaL
Feb 2013
#10
Their lips are moving? Or, you can listen to the radio feeds from when the fire was started.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#57
Why is it idiotic to think that Dorner started the fire after the cannisters were deployed?
Light House
Feb 2013
#75
7 incendiary devices were delivered yet they don't know how the fire started?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#210
"Anyone who says that Chris Dorner was deprived of due process because cops stopped letting
Hissyspit
Feb 2013
#30
Did the LEOs know without a doubt there was noone else in the cabin before the "burn the
pkdu
Feb 2013
#33
stand offs that last a long time are in situations where people aren't being shot at
TorchTheWitch
Feb 2013
#36
It is willful ignorance and purposeful mis-statements of facts such as this
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#41
He was executed by the police. Why didn't they just use a sniper to blow him away?
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#127
Why didn't you answer the question? Why not simply use a sniper to take him out?
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#164
I didn't attack the messenger, but rather the message he has flogged off in the OP.
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#124
That's exactly what I wrote about in the initial reply, contorting the facts to fit
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#148
Due process does not mean 'I see a truck, let's unload our weapons without warning'.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#49
This is not about the abhorrent actions by those cops against those civilians.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#51
I think he made a very fine first impression, but didn't have the emotional fortitude or the
MADem
Feb 2013
#125
I don't think those of us claiming lack of due process are claiming that he was a good guy.
Buzz Clik
Feb 2013
#82
LOL !!! - Another "Great American" Pipes In... - Proving He Knows NOTHING Of BEING An American...
WillyT
Feb 2013
#218