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48. If the point every comes in which I deny friendship based merely on American politics...

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:47 AM

Feb 2013

If the point every comes in which I deny friendship based merely on American politics, I will be forced to consider myself a failure as human, more intolerant and dogmatic than those I indict for being intolerant and dogmatic, and a wee bit too melodramatic for the good of reality.

I do however, understand many people will indeed do just that, and then rationalize American politics as an ethical choice founded completely on black and white morality, with little, if any, room for the human condition.

All these imaginary human constructs which we allow to not merely run our lives, but also to decide our friendships...? No thanks, not for me...

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Could you be friends with a Nazi?? [View all] kentuck Feb 2013 OP

all I know is you can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose snooper2 Feb 2013 #1

You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose Warpy Feb 2013 #4

So far is the operative phrase kairos12 Feb 2013 #6

Hell, I have trouble being friends with "Christians" who don't want to help those "takers". gateley Feb 2013 #2

Such people are not Christians. burnsei sensei Feb 2013 #7

This is not news to me. gateley Feb 2013 #9

Friends might be asking if they can be friends with someone... Deep13 Feb 2013 #3

So if your friend is a Nazi? kentuck Feb 2013 #5

NAZI LOVER! snooper2 Feb 2013 #8

Jesus, man. WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #10

None is. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #14

"no real power", IMO, the problem isn't that there are "ir-reconcilable" "differences" but that for patrice Feb 2013 #80

It kind of depends... Bay Boy Feb 2013 #11

No. Blue_In_AK Feb 2013 #12

Ha, I was just going to post that Corgigal Feb 2013 #36

Do not people have certain responsibilities as a human being? kentuck Feb 2013 #13

Pissed at me, my father once asked me what would I think of him no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #15

I guess what I was trying to say... kentuck Feb 2013 #16

A bit of background. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #19

They may not deserve your friendship, but your responsibility for reality requires that you call patrice Feb 2013 #81

I want you to know that I really, REALLY appreciate your sense of humor!!! MADem Feb 2013 #56

Thank you. Once of my better moments in repartee. no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #71

Hee hee! MADem Feb 2013 #72

My family's general attitude to my taking a deep breath and letting it go: no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #75

As long as it isn't an Illinois Nazi Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #17

No. I would cringe every time they opened their mouth. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #18

Imagine the same question concerning communists Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #20

extermination of undesirables was an avowed policy of the nazis. it is not an avowed policy HiPointDem Feb 2013 #21

Your claiming Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung, et al Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #22

Nazi policy was explicitly exterminationist in the case of Jews, Gypsies, the handicapped, and HiPointDem Feb 2013 #28

Thanks for these thoughtful points kimbutgar Feb 2013 #69

Or capitalists. EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #24

Capitalists, by the defintion of capitalism, are not the state Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #25

if capitalists are not the state, who or what is? given that the majority of state policies benefit HiPointDem Feb 2013 #31

"most wars have been waged for the same reasons" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #32

walmart and target don't have spies? are you *kidding*? they have spies all over the place. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #33

You're seriously claiming that business intel gathered by Wal-Mart Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #35

'business intel'. lol. is spying on worker organizing efforts now considered 'business intel'? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #38

How does that even come close to the KGB and secret police of your beloved mass-murderers? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #42

oh, first it was 'walmart doesn't have spies,' but now it's 'well, they do, but they're not as bad HiPointDem Feb 2013 #44

I repeat, how does that come close to the KGB? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #47

where is it that i make the claim that walmart's spy practices are the equivalent of the KGB? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #59

Sorry dude. You can't build a closet big enough to hide 100 million skeletons. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #65

they make a desert and they call it peace. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #67

I think you are conflating theKed Feb 2013 #34

You left out religion and freedom of conscience. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #37

1950 called theKed Feb 2013 #39

"Communism is not inherently anti-democratic." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #43

when the CP actually was a viable party, that was not the attitude of the US government. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #49

Good! I would want them to do the same thing to fascists Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #51

*sigh* theKed Feb 2013 #54

Calling the USSR theKed Feb 2013 #50

Sounds like the definition of insanity. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #52

Huh? theKed Feb 2013 #53

You wrote Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #57

Tell you what theKed Feb 2013 #58

NO kidding. laundry_queen Feb 2013 #60

"Some edumacation is in order here." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #62

LOL are you series? laundry_queen Feb 2013 #63

As do OTHER types of regimes, so all such are brothers & sisters in fascism. patrice Feb 2013 #78

I gave up fairy tales as a little girl. It's the real life body counts that concern me now. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #61

Huh? theKed Feb 2013 #66

It seems to me Mosby Feb 2013 #70

On the Side of Pol Pot: U.S. Supports Khmer Rouge HiPointDem Feb 2013 #40

That's a source? Some guy's teal blue website? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #55

The source is Covert Action Quarterly, 1990. But even CBS says more or less the same -- today. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #64

It is a trait of fascism that the drive toward power for power's sake alone will wear ANY label. patrice Feb 2013 #83

I knew a guy who wanted to limit voting Dirty Socialist Feb 2013 #23

Could you be friends with someone who supports the summary execution, without trial, of US citizens? Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #26

Where I live you don't any choice unless you are a compete hermit n\t doc03 Feb 2013 #27

I'm related to many RWNJ... a la izquierda Feb 2013 #29

Interesting el_bryanto Feb 2013 #30

Just a thought. SQUEE Feb 2013 #41

I smell another "purity thread" derby378 Feb 2013 #45

That depends, by Nazi, do you mean.. Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #46

If the point every comes in which I deny friendship based merely on American politics... LanternWaste Feb 2013 #48

no samsingh Feb 2013 #68

Once, before the country became this divided nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #73

I can be casual "friends" with such people...(the second group, not the Nazis) Bettie Feb 2013 #74

K&R for evergreen personal reality testing! patrice Feb 2013 #76

Your criteria is far too slanted. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #77

"She's a Nazi, George. A Nazi!" KamaAina Feb 2013 #79

Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism; at least it was an Ethos. slackmaster Feb 2013 #82

People praise hit men all the time, along with torturers and civilian killers just1voice Feb 2013 #84