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DaveJ

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25. A "rise in al-Qaida recruits" doesn't necessarily mean more terrorists

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:25 AM

Feb 2013

An increase in membership (what do they have memberships cards maybe?) does not necessarily make al-Qaida more dangerous. We are after people with no moral fiber, murderers, that's a special breed. People who join a club because they are understandably upset do not necessarily have the genetics necessary to spend their entire lives dedicated to murder.

And it is uncalled for that anyone in the U.S. associate our own military with "terrorism". That's little different than the mentality of the mythical hippy spitting in the faces of our soldiers.

Listen I know that things can get out of hand with war. It can spiral out of control.

But I also know that it is unbelievable how sadistic humans can be. I do not know about you, but I've seen incredibly mean morally bankrupt people with no regard for others. And yes unfortunately they live among kids and kids will suffer as a result.

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It's Just Shocking What the Drone War Cheerleaders Are Willing to Say Out Loud [View all] xchrom Feb 2013 OP

k/r......The attempts to justify and rationalize this are sad to watch. marmar Feb 2013 #1

+1 xchrom Feb 2013 #2

sad and horrifying indeed. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #3

"It's essentially a helicopter!" Earth_First Feb 2013 #4

Domestic? Gore1FL Feb 2013 #89

K&R (n/t) bread_and_roses Feb 2013 #5

"And so many are trying to change the linguistic foundation of the discourse redgreenandblue Feb 2013 #6

Do the whiners John2 Feb 2013 #7

Yes, we know. Hissyspit Feb 2013 #9

Plus these kids are not American kids. truedelphi Feb 2013 #109

Wow...a perfect example of what the OP is about...thanks. zeemike Feb 2013 #11

As I've said before, I also see nobody volunteering to catch these killers. DaveJ Feb 2013 #12

Wow, you make some pretty serious accusations there pal, MadHound Feb 2013 #24

That makes no sense whatsoever. DaveJ Feb 2013 #27

Then let me spell it out for you like I would a two year old, MadHound Feb 2013 #28

you might want to take a good look around your gastrointestinal system.. frylock Feb 2013 #98

Seems to me, the killers are the "troops". Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #31

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #35

Let me get you a tissue and a fainting couch. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #38

So anonymous, risk free slaughter of our little brown brothers pscot Feb 2013 #49

Pre-killers. morningfog Feb 2013 #64

You offer a false choice Martin Eden Feb 2013 #85

Given that I do not have access to all the intelligence DaveJ Feb 2013 #86

Drone=Epic fail nvme Feb 2013 #96

same thing the bush fanbois said.. frylock Feb 2013 #99

What is "necessary" is 1/4 of the crux of my issue with drones Martin Eden Feb 2013 #112

Wow, two right-wing talking points. Hissyspit Feb 2013 #114

False dichotomies. Hissyspit Feb 2013 #118

You can make this shit up. GeorgeGist Feb 2013 #88

The alternative isn't just to send people in to catch the criminals. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #91

1. We don't necessarily know they are killers. Hissyspit Feb 2013 #113

Oh, pathetic. "After 9/11"... sibelian Feb 2013 #116

Don't you love how we're not good liberals Hissyspit Feb 2013 #119

Well, seeing how with each drone strike, it has already been proven that we generate more terrorists RC Feb 2013 #17

A "rise in al-Qaida recruits" doesn't necessarily mean more terrorists DaveJ Feb 2013 #25

Then explain "Shock and Awe" in the middle of the night, in retaliation for 9/11, in a country that RC Feb 2013 #37

Is that how you measure a terrorist? By how many innocent people are killed? A Simple Game Feb 2013 #20

WE'll see how happy you are with this stance... 99Forever Feb 2013 #21

he'll be whistling dixie out of his fucking butthole frylock Feb 2013 #100

We've changed the war, were are not fighting religious extremist any more, bahrbearian Feb 2013 #23

And is it our job to police the world? glowing Feb 2013 #29

+1 daleanime Feb 2013 #41

"over 200 children" PDittie Feb 2013 #33

What a great patriot you are! Chef Eric Feb 2013 #36

Your continuing the wrong war.... daleanime Feb 2013 #39

THEY STARTED IT! bobclark86 Feb 2013 #40

+1 graham4anything Feb 2013 #50

Yet another post that wouldn't have existed before 2009 nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #56

What war are you talking about? sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #67

+infinity daleanime Feb 2013 #72

Exactly correct. Thank you. JEB Feb 2013 #95

Whiner ... GeorgeGist Feb 2013 #87

that whooshing sound you hear? it ain't one of your precious drones. frylock Feb 2013 #97

Whiner = sibelian Feb 2013 #115

Spot on Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #8

Well said. K&R G_j Feb 2013 #10

It's the Bush-Cheney Boiled Frog Effect. n/t Pryderi Feb 2013 #13

K&R. I've seen the "Why do you hate the troops?" argument used here bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #14

And now it seems that same Freepturd thinking is accepted here as rational opinion. RC Feb 2013 #19

secretdronekilllistunderground frylock Feb 2013 #102

For several different topics... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #45

word up frylock Feb 2013 #103

A Kinder, Gentler Death Machine n2doc Feb 2013 #15

I think it is simply because it is Obama doing it. The Link Feb 2013 #16

An appropriate Richard Nixon quote 90-percent Feb 2013 #18

What fuck is a "Humane Weapon" Heather MC Feb 2013 #22

they're not drone murder cheerleaders Doctor_J Feb 2013 #26

Fixed it for ya. RC Feb 2013 #43

i'll be front and center reminding every one of those shitlumps.. frylock Feb 2013 #104

When you blow people up, the survivors tend to get annoyed. Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #30

Posts like this... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #47

Flattery will get you Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #73

Ha ha... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #93

Good Post! n/t JimDandy Feb 2013 #77

Someone _ON DU_ told me I needed to get over my a2liberal Feb 2013 #32

Sir, it truly is shocking MNBrewer Feb 2013 #34

yep, those things have been obvious from the beginning stupidicus Feb 2013 #42

They are better than the old method of firing lots of cruise missiles at terrorists FarCenter Feb 2013 #44

There'd be agreement about this if some anti-drone program leaders werent also PRO assault weapons patrice Feb 2013 #46

And do you actually have any proof of that contention? MadHound Feb 2013 #48

It's a hypothesis founded on the fact that the NRA is promoting armed overthrow of US government patrice Feb 2013 #51

A hypothesis, OK, everybody is entitled to have one, MadHound Feb 2013 #54

Have you read S. 2205 sponsored by Sen. Moran in the 112th Congress & in the Senate Foreign patrice Feb 2013 #53

And it says nothing about drones, pro or con. MadHound Feb 2013 #57

What might the attitude toward drones be in this crowd, link: patrice Feb 2013 #55

I don't know, and I always find it pointless to speculate on such things, MadHound Feb 2013 #59

You don't speculate = you PRETEND THAT THE RISKS ARE 0. point, set, & match. patrice Feb 2013 #61

and, btw, FOUR fingers!!!! patrice Feb 2013 #63

Whoops, and there you go, MadHound Feb 2013 #66

OK then, I'll be going now. MadHound Feb 2013 #65

"I don't speculate..." = PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY, a highly MARKETABLE commodity that produced 9/11. patrice Feb 2013 #69

***IF*** the problem is DEAD BODIES, how many DEAD BODIES are YOU willing to pay for being wrong? patrice Feb 2013 #60

Well, that was a grand, nonsensical rant, MadHound Feb 2013 #62

You seem to be getting more and more whatchamacallit Feb 2013 #52

All the nonsense about "this is more humane than sending the troops in or carpet bombing" Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #58

I entirely agree! JimDandy Feb 2013 #80

We have a loud contingent of the "Bring it on", "Smoke 'em out" wing of the party here. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #68

We've been sold the idea of "necessary war." And if you believe in this, drones make sense. mikeytherat Feb 2013 #70

I find it stunning... Oilwellian Feb 2013 #71

That's partly because the Democratic Party is full of republicans. Where else would they rhett o rick Feb 2013 #74

That will happen only when a constitutional convention theaocp Feb 2013 #75

fucking-a frylock Feb 2013 #105

I'm pretty sure that in the event of another terrorist attack treestar Feb 2013 #76

You think getting out of Afghanistan theaocp Feb 2013 #81

Message auto-removed dodgecharger Feb 2013 #78

At least we have a hope he will be transparent about it... Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #79

Message auto-removed dodgecharger Feb 2013 #82

Actually, drone use has been out there long before he became President. Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #83

Lack of precautionary measures and indiscriminate use of force seem to this puppy to have been indepat Feb 2013 #84

+1000 blackspade Feb 2013 #90

Honest American families are in the crosshairs of drones..... lib2DaBone Feb 2013 #92

"Dead" is now sanitized into "enhanced unconsciousness" by the Drone cheerleaders. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #94

This whole drone operation is done at the quest of our Industrial Military Complex... busterbrown Feb 2013 #101

Very well said...... K/R lib2DaBone Feb 2013 #107

^^^^this^^^^ Amonester Feb 2013 #108

Drone Cheerleaders ReRe Feb 2013 #106

K&R DeSwiss Feb 2013 #110

1984 is no longer fiction Theyletmeeatcake2 Feb 2013 #111

kick woo me with science Feb 2013 #117