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geek tragedy

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73. The statute says that it applies to any organizations etc "he determines"
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:11 PM
Feb 2013

participated or helped those participating in the attacks.

The language is absolute. His discretion. No one elses. Complete delegation of any and all judgment calls.

And if one is fighting an organization, by definition one is fighting its members.

K&R not sure if I should laugh or cry idwiyo Feb 2013 #1
I'm right next to the Penguin Demeter Feb 2013 #9
So am I... idwiyo Feb 2013 #12
Sensible Woodchuck reads the New Republic. progressoid Feb 2013 #2
well, certainly not 'The Nation' KG Feb 2013 #4
he's drooling over the Ezra Klein profile nashville_brook Feb 2013 #54
Well, if it leads to people taking elections seriously, and showing up to vote bhikkhu Feb 2013 #3
Does it matter if people come out to vote and only vote in a Democrat R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #6
Apparently not anymore, it's all about my team your team Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #8
Avoiding land wars that kill hundreds of thousands of people geek tragedy Feb 2013 #10
How do we KNOW those are "militants"? Should I just take it on "faith" alone? idwiyo Feb 2013 #14
Armed conflict is going to entail loss of civilian life. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #17
Particularly when everyone in the decision chain ... GoneFishin Feb 2013 #25
Very good analogy. Those million $ hammers just GOT to be used. ~nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #36
You do understand that the USA has to declare war before using R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #18
I do understand that's a theory amongst some academics that's never geek tragedy Feb 2013 #19
Is outright murder also a theory amongst some academics? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #27
The AUMF authorizes force against: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #30
So you agree with a Bush era law? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #34
One does not to agree with a law to recognize it is the law. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #35
None of the targets in Yemen, Somalia, or even Pakistan in many years morningfog Feb 2013 #70
AQ did. Trying to define AQ is almost a fool's errand. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #71
It is a farce. A literal reading of the clause you cited shows the current President is abusing his morningfog Feb 2013 #72
The statute says that it applies to any organizations etc "he determines" geek tragedy Feb 2013 #73
THe organization is not monolithic. Like I said, the statute may give discretion, but he morningfog Feb 2013 #74
As I said, defining AQ is a fool's errand. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #75
In that case, the President is the quintessential fool. morningfog Feb 2013 #76
Not going to disagree too loudly on that one. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #77
That "war" is expanding into other countries Martin Eden Feb 2013 #28
That's a completely valid and compelling policy critique. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #29
I'll take that a step further: Martin Eden Feb 2013 #41
The best thing that could happen would be for Congress to step in and provide geek tragedy Feb 2013 #43
What the hell are we doing killing "insurgents" that had no part or association with our attackers? TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #51
No argument from me. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #52
False Dilemma Fallacy. bvar22 Feb 2013 #32
I agree--there are many alternatives. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #33
People need to realize that the Democrats do NOT have support thetonka Feb 2013 #31
And while we are at it, before I would vote for her, Hillary Clinton would JDPriestly Feb 2013 #38
Hillary has never recanted, reframed, or apologized for her vote to Invade Iraq. bvar22 Feb 2013 #45
the only thing new.. stillcool Feb 2013 #57
We've been doing it for more than two centuries, actually. Amonester Feb 2013 #61
Let me get this straight. You think that drone killing who ever the president decides is ok if rhett o rick Feb 2013 #50
I think its important to look on the bright side bhikkhu Feb 2013 #56
Are you advocating for a 3rd Party? bvar22 Feb 2013 #66
No bhikkhu Feb 2013 #67
Then WHO should we have voted for if we conscientiously oppose... bvar22 Feb 2013 #68
Obama bhikkhu Feb 2013 #69
K&R. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #5
Love Tom Tomorrow, MadHound Feb 2013 #7
agree. he is a national treasure Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #21
Called "extra-judicial killings". We're properly against it when Assad's militias do it in Syria. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #11
Stupid Assad, he should call people on his kill list "Enemies of US and Freedom Everywhere, a.k.a idwiyo Feb 2013 #16
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2013 #13
K&R Zorra Feb 2013 #15
kick and rec!@ Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #20
Sums it up nicely. n/t arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #22
Hasn't the CIA done this for decades? eggplant Feb 2013 #23
It has been illegal so they certainly have not been open about it, but there have been JDPriestly Feb 2013 #39
So I guess the real difference here is that we announce when we successfully blow someone up. eggplant Feb 2013 #42
No. The difference IS that one is codified as National Policy... bvar22 Feb 2013 #46
Fair point. n/t eggplant Feb 2013 #49
Who A-OK'ed the American Natives' genocide? Amonester Feb 2013 #62
After the Union Army finished with the The South, bvar22 Feb 2013 #63
Yep. Capitalist expansion, through resource and labor exploitation. Amonester Feb 2013 #65
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #24
du rec. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #26
Goodness, but I do love Tom Tomorrow. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #37
DURec leftstreet Feb 2013 #40
K&R!! SaveOurDemocracy Feb 2013 #44
K&R woo me with science Feb 2013 #47
And Another... WillyT Feb 2013 #48
Yup, yup TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #53
Britney's words of wisdom are as important now as they were then Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #55
Oh MAN... bvar22 Feb 2013 #64
K&R nt raouldukelives Feb 2013 #58
It's good to see the sensible woodchuck LWolf Feb 2013 #59
Headbanging it is!!! libodem Feb 2013 #60
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