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randome

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99. You mean the allegations he waited 2 weeks to make?
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:33 AM
Feb 2013

The allegations he made the day AFTER his partner asked for him to be reassigned, thereby ruining his career?

There WAS an investigation about the allegations of brutality. But it's clear as day the allegations were made in retaliation to his partner's desire to be rid of him.

Absolutely, MannyGoldstein! Th1onein Feb 2013 #1
I thought we were nineteen50 Feb 2013 #213
Manny, your subject had me wondering if you needed spanked, Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #2
I came stomping in here on blood pressure overdrive AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #147
He is good! Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #168
Me too,............. kooljerk666 Feb 2013 #187
K&R. I wish I had some pithy comment but I am shocked into silence. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #3
Yep. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #4
Spot on, Manny libodem Feb 2013 #5
Sad to say I have seen a few DUers with this attitude. Kalidurga Feb 2013 #6
You missed a few who got what they wanted... RevStPatrick Feb 2013 #107
You could say that DU got what it wanted, too. randome Feb 2013 #109
Thank you RevStPat. . . n/t annabanana Feb 2013 #120
Spot on. zeemike Feb 2013 #167
Good point. Kalidurga Feb 2013 #227
WTF? There are 10+ people who absolutely did NOT get what they wanted magical thyme Feb 2013 #123
Chris Dorner was a close friend of someone I know Stainless Feb 2013 #143
He murdered innocent peopel who were not LA PD! rustydog Feb 2013 #145
A bit of advice, dog Stainless Feb 2013 #161
The first two people he killed were not with the LAPD. randome Feb 2013 #162
You are misinformed Stainless Feb 2013 #163
People that merely need an intervention don't kill innocent people dbackjon Feb 2013 #176
WTF would I have done????? Zoeisright Feb 2013 #226
You need to get a grip Stainless Feb 2013 #231
I am very, very sad for *everybody* hurt by this tragedy magical thyme Feb 2013 #148
Thank you for your compassion Stainless Feb 2013 #164
he avoided hurting innocent people??? TorchTheWitch Feb 2013 #214
My Post makes you sick? Stainless Feb 2013 #230
Yes the cops are not above the law Beringia Feb 2013 #7
I know, right? notadmblnd Feb 2013 #8
It seems to be the way of the Romans who watched the gladiators riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #9
Ha! zeemike Feb 2013 #169
Yes, we can do better. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #10
I can understand why many.. sendero Feb 2013 #93
Manny chickens are coming home to roost nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #11
He could have full access to the courts and full protection of the laws. He chose otherwise. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #12
The police wanted to kill him even before the final gunfight. Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #16
That is speculation. You are just making things up, and then criticizing others BlueStreak Feb 2013 #35
every bit as speculative as your opinion frylock Feb 2013 #41
I'm not talking about the speculation regarding the final standoff Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #45
THAT is what the criticism and concern should be focused on! marions ghost Feb 2013 #102
I agree with you on that BlueStreak Feb 2013 #121
You are right they are speculating davidpdx Feb 2013 #90
If they felt lethal force was their only choice, why aren't they saying so rocktivity Feb 2013 #134
Because that is obvious to just about everybody. Obviously lethal force was necessary BlueStreak Feb 2013 #180
If the reports of the single shot and no further activity are true rocktivity Feb 2013 #189
???????????? heaven05 Feb 2013 #192
yep heaven05 Feb 2013 #191
I doubt what the scanners picked up represents 100% of the conversation davidpdx Feb 2013 #210
?????? heaven05 Feb 2013 #190
There was no gun fight with the cops who insinerated him. Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #20
Yes, because they wouldn't let him have a clear shot. There is no obligation geek tragedy Feb 2013 #21
I don't know enough to judge whether the cops did the right thing - that's not my point. MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #28
what makes you think he could have been taken alive? BainsBane Feb 2013 #76
Because he was obviously there and the LAPD has filled him in on the case completely davidpdx Feb 2013 #91
Actually I think it's a shame he wasn't captured alive. We need to learn how folks such as snappyturtle Feb 2013 #83
while i often agree with you, i have a question for you(and others) Bodhi BloodWave Feb 2013 #103
He was no better than a hunter, oldbanjo Feb 2013 #106
It's pretty much expected, if you kill a cop caseymoz Feb 2013 #30
In a word.... defacto7 Feb 2013 #63
'Burners' is a term for 'incendiary teargas canisters'. randome Feb 2013 #105
I got that. caseymoz Feb 2013 #228
The cops put 30 bullet holes in that newspaper truck tinrobot Feb 2013 #55
That doesn't mean you need to cheer vigilantism Scootaloo Feb 2013 #78
He killed one that day, and wounded another, and was firing at the police right up until the end. MADem Feb 2013 #79
Who are the "you people" that you accuse of starting twisted threads. pennylane100 Feb 2013 #82
Bull! A Simple Game Feb 2013 #101
Yes. mn9driver Feb 2013 #151
+1 treestar Feb 2013 #196
I've participated on DU for many years. I'm sorry to say that it appears to me that the posts on ladjf Feb 2013 #13
that's what happens when you have a big tent.. frylock Feb 2013 #42
Agree ann--- Feb 2013 #178
This is real life, not Dirty Harry, vigilantism by cops is criminal and a cancer to the rule of law. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #14
hear, hear! defacto7 Feb 2013 #64
Stop it, Manny jsr Feb 2013 #15
Amazing that people think that Dorner had a due process right to kill cops geek tragedy Feb 2013 #17
Gee I Have Read This Entire Thread HangOnKids Feb 2013 #43
"How does the constitution figure in this?" geek tragedy Feb 2013 #48
Well, well, well! "due process right to kill cops" huh? sibelian Feb 2013 #71
Well, he shot at them who they tried to arrest him, and when they used similar levels geek tragedy Feb 2013 #74
So you make shit up, then bellow about a constitution you know nothing about DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #136
Where did you take Constitutional law? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #137
Straw man much? Hugabear Feb 2013 #181
Show me one where someone alleges with specificity what due process right geek tragedy Feb 2013 #183
You go first. Hugabear Feb 2013 #184
They're alleging he was deprived of his due process rights. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #186
We are nation of 2 laws: one for the upper class and one for the rest of us. neverforget Feb 2013 #18
"Never, ever, did I think I'd read that kind of thought on DU." R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #19
It's hard to figure us out. LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #22
Good luck indicting a cop in Texas jsr Feb 2013 #25
He had it coming, fuck due process!!! Jury of peers is so vastly overated!!! Who needs "ejudication" marble falls Feb 2013 #23
One more time: Timothy Dale Johnson onenote Feb 2013 #24
That's quite a view of the law you have. Union Scribe Feb 2013 #38
in this case bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #46
The law doesn't prevent the police from using lethal force. onenote Feb 2013 #150
It isn't the same as saying, 'whenever however you feel like it - kill someone." Argue 2nd Amendment marble falls Feb 2013 #166
I'll call it an execution. defacto7 Feb 2013 #65
The hypocrisy on this web site runs deep. RC Feb 2013 #142
I certainly agree with you Manny. juajen Feb 2013 #26
War Droney Octafish Feb 2013 #27
Too many people think "Justice" = "Revenge". Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #29
The cops, by definition, could not perform "vigilante justice." Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #31
And did they..."effect an arrest"? Union Scribe Feb 2013 #34
"Pretty please, Mr. Victim of Society, will you please let me cuff you?" Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #37
Are COPS citizens? defacto7 Feb 2013 #66
um bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #47
They weren't allowed to use lethal force against a gunman who geek tragedy Feb 2013 #59
I think you know better than that. Bucky Feb 2013 #50
+1 dionysus Feb 2013 #185
Repace "Dorner" with "Dykes," and you'd get run off DU. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #32
K&R! Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #33
what law did the cops break? n/t bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #36
Quite a few, judging by the manifesto. Bucky Feb 2013 #40
Quite a few without any manifesto... defacto7 Feb 2013 #68
I'm going to surround your horse with pillows Bucky Feb 2013 #39
That's a big "if" - and one that doesn't apply in this case - lynne Feb 2013 #44
It's called "due process" W T F Feb 2013 #49
DURec leftstreet Feb 2013 #51
Well said Manny. I think the DEmocratic Party has been tainted by all the Republicans rhett o rick Feb 2013 #52
And the Democratic Party keeps up a steady march to the Conservative Right... bvar22 Feb 2013 #195
I agree with Mr. ODonnell that it was a brilliant strategy by the Pres to win in 2012. rhett o rick Feb 2013 #200
RedStaters and Freepers post here. Might help explain some of it. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #53
No, but we do have Dorner supporters. I can name at least two active ones. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #60
Name those "Supporters" geek HangOnKids Feb 2013 #67
Heaven05 for one: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #69
Thanks I'm Saving This Information HangOnKids Feb 2013 #77
Last night you had 6 on your LIST RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #87
RedStaters and Freepers post here. stonecutter357 Feb 2013 #115
You can't get him in a court of law if he will die before being captured. dkf Feb 2013 #54
And if he had been theKed Feb 2013 #112
They had him cornered... they were not about to wait for nightfall, and him to escape. that was secondwind Feb 2013 #56
I've been thinking about this quite a bit... MustBeTheBooz Feb 2013 #57
Well said Manny. beevul Feb 2013 #58
Nauseating, isn't it? I'm going back and forth with one claiming "burners" is slang for teargas. DRoseDARs Feb 2013 #61
Lots of unanswered questions here. How LibDemAlways Feb 2013 #62
Curious isn't it? defacto7 Feb 2013 #70
Manny, thank you very much magellan Feb 2013 #72
True, but it would have been so much better if they had tortured him mercilessly Zorra Feb 2013 #73
Do any of you people understand the definition of murder? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #75
the Vigilante was Dorner, who killed in cold blood, just like Zimmerman killed in cold blood graham4anything Feb 2013 #80
yeah, he does kind of remind me of Zimmerman JI7 Feb 2013 #81
This thread is such a depressing representation of what went wrong. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #84
you heaven05 Feb 2013 #197
Good luck to you. The attackers here will not prevail. ancianita Feb 2013 #223
If you square up with law enforcement officers using a lethal weapon quaker bill Feb 2013 #85
"We will have turned into a third-world hellhole, a Mad Maxian dystopia" michigandem58 Feb 2013 #86
Yes. randome Feb 2013 #96
Is anybody going to investigate if Dorner's beef with the cops had any merit? tclambert Feb 2013 #88
You mean the allegations he waited 2 weeks to make? randome Feb 2013 #99
maybe he spent two weeks talking with his superior (not partner) about what happened and why. robinlynne Feb 2013 #165
Abolutely right. AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #224
They wanted to take him out. UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #89
I feel your disgust.... Locrian Feb 2013 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author davidpdx Feb 2013 #94
'There, but for the grace of God....' Ian Iam Feb 2013 #95
It really didn't seem to me that he gave them a lot of choice in the matter. Ganja Ninja Feb 2013 #97
You do know how many agencies were involved in this, right? randome Feb 2013 #98
I agree alarimer Feb 2013 #100
How very disappointing Manny! hootinholler Feb 2013 #104
the blood-lust is disgusting, but not surprising. KG Feb 2013 #108
I wonder too about the people under our tent Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #110
It's amazing to watch... 99Forever Feb 2013 #111
pls bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #118
Ya mean other than ... 99Forever Feb 2013 #119
um... bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #122
Both. 99Forever Feb 2013 #131
Obviously he has no idea. cartach Feb 2013 #218
What if meanit Feb 2013 #113
Our President does this maryland native Feb 2013 #114
Do you really think that there was some utopian period onenote Feb 2013 #117
Utopian Period maryland native Feb 2013 #125
I'm happy when police "violence" is used against a violent killer onenote Feb 2013 #127
Plea accepted!! maryland native Feb 2013 #129
Thanks. And I do apologize for my snark as well. It was unnecessary onenote Feb 2013 #139
There hasn't even been a utopian period when the police didn't kill *unarmed and non dangerous folks Fumesucker Feb 2013 #126
No disagreement there. onenote Feb 2013 #128
It's all part and parcel of the same mindset Fumesucker Feb 2013 #132
Suicide by cop maryland native Feb 2013 #135
You're right that it was predictable. onenote Feb 2013 #138
K & R AzDar Feb 2013 #116
First they came for the communists ..... Coyotl Feb 2013 #124
I'm pretty sure bigapple1963 Feb 2013 #133
Manny wasn't talking about this case specifically, he was talking about the sabrina 1 Feb 2013 #146
The demand for revenge is replacing the call for justice. hay rick Feb 2013 #172
I am disgusted at the lack of concern for the 3 innocent people shot with hails of cop gunfire Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #130
I don't think I've seen anyone condoning those shootings onenote Feb 2013 #140
That bothers me, too susanr516 Feb 2013 #194
How do I love thee? tblue Feb 2013 #141
Agreed. Vigilante justice is not OK. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #144
Due process is soooo last century. n/t L0oniX Feb 2013 #149
Like the Bible sez.... Fuddnik Feb 2013 #152
Some DUers would even call you an Al Qaeda sympathizer a2liberal Feb 2013 #153
Ideally you are right. iandhr Feb 2013 #154
The problem is with the police burning him in a trap "er, like we talked about" jsr Feb 2013 #157
Maybe Dorner new thats what would happen. iandhr Feb 2013 #160
Agree 100% Taverner Feb 2013 #155
I guess DU is a big old net. Jakes Progress Feb 2013 #156
We should trust the judgment of the law enforcement commanders. The Link Feb 2013 #158
This is a very complicated situation, in my opinion, ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #159
So The Ends Justify The Means? Just Wondering n/t DallasNE Feb 2013 #171
No. I don't think that. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #174
Just Like The Jews Had It Coming 80 Years Ago DallasNE Feb 2013 #170
We Have Become A Caeser67 Feb 2013 #173
Thank you. n/t mlevans Feb 2013 #175
America is a violent nation ann--- Feb 2013 #177
Good for you, Manny . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #179
Are You The Same "Another_Liberal" DallasNE Feb 2013 #202
Just the same . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #211
Bush Truly Was The Worst President Ever DallasNE Feb 2013 #225
I hope we never . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #232
Rule of Law is the RW line, we're a union perfecting justice. Festivito Feb 2013 #182
at heaven05 Feb 2013 #188
It was your conversation on another thread that prompted my post MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #199
Rec'd just1voice Feb 2013 #193
I applaud these remarks. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #198
I'm not going to cry about Dorner being killed krispos42 Feb 2013 #201
Well said, Manny SemperEadem Feb 2013 #203
Thank you, Manny! struggle4progress Feb 2013 #204
The question is whether it constituted vigalante justice. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #205
"Hard cases make bad law" ColesCountyDem Feb 2013 #206
We all reminisce about how cops "used to be" but we're stuck in that tv sitcom world. mountain grammy Feb 2013 #207
K&R countryjake Feb 2013 #208
Vigilante Justice = Shoot First, ask Questions Later AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #209
And there we have it nineteen50 Feb 2013 #212
justice comes in all shades of grey pasto76 Feb 2013 #215
AMEN! MissMarple Feb 2013 #216
We Live in Vigilante Times triplepoint Feb 2013 #217
A thought that's been congealing over time in my brain. DaveJ Feb 2013 #219
The authoritarian contingent always responds this way. Marr Feb 2013 #220
Wasn't that his manifesto........ Historic NY Feb 2013 #221
Laws and courts are for normal people, not animals like Dorner. hay rick Feb 2013 #222
We know how MannyGoldstein feels, but the real questions how does 3rd way Manny feel? white_wolf Feb 2013 #229
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