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In reply to the discussion: So, how should cops have taken Dorner alive? [View all]99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)120. I'll bet they have gas canisters with sleeping gas in them
if they don't, they should, for cases like this.
like tear gas, only where it just puts people to sleep.
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yes, and then the police would be castigated over not delivering pizzas and beer to his front
CAG
Feb 2013
#28
No, the complaint would be the pizza was cold. I remember when a prison was going to cold lunches
KittyWampus
Feb 2013
#119
+1000; lots of tactical armchair experts around here who just KNOW that they could have
CAG
Feb 2013
#5
He shot himself rather than leave the building, so for all practical purposes
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#134
or the doner could have walked out of the burning house and not shot himself
seabeyond
Feb 2013
#133
yes, I am particularly interested in the "without further loss of life" part, because out of all
CAG
Feb 2013
#4
I'm sorry. my response was rude. didnt mean it the way I said it. response to reply 7
robinlynne
Feb 2013
#11
The FBI, the U.S. Marshal's Service and the San Berdadino PD made these decisions.
randome
Feb 2013
#146
It's the lack of second guessing that has turned PDs across the country into travesties of justice.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#174
It was tear gas that set the place on fire. He punked out and shot himself.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#9
The "they" that shot up the women in the truck were not the "they" who used an APV to tear down
MADem
Feb 2013
#118
Some of us feel that the tactics that the cops did use put lives at risk.
backscatter712
Feb 2013
#75
SWAT would have been sent in to storm the house. That usually involves shooting the suspect.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#67
so you do understand now that he WAS given plenty of opportunities to surrender, right?
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#87
So, the fact that he was fucked in the head means they deprived him of due
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#95
Setting fire to cabin (possibly after he shot himself). Sniper. What exactly is the difference?
onenote
Feb 2013
#22
Well, nobodyspecial, an hour has passed and I don't see anybody answering your excellent
CAG
Feb 2013
#31
Then the same posters would be screaming that police are starving Dorner to death and demanding
LisaL
Feb 2013
#36
Really? So you would be just fine if they cut off his supply of water, he had no food, and
LisaL
Feb 2013
#42
I am absolutely positive one can last quite a bit longer than 3-4 days without water.
LisaL
Feb 2013
#53
He didn't have the motivation to surrender when he was trapped in that cabin? What do you think
onenote
Feb 2013
#56
He had had that option for about a week, but decided to kill innocent people instead.
CAG
Feb 2013
#59
It takes a week to 10 days to die of dehydration, not 3-4. And he had lots of times and motivation
uppityperson
Feb 2013
#90
How do you ensure he doesn't escape during the evening. How many days do you surround
onenote
Feb 2013
#51
They could have set up a perimiter and simply waited, there was no where for Dorner to go!
DrewFlorida
Feb 2013
#66
Lots of perps with guns have been contained and captured or killed with conventional tactics.
backscatter712
Feb 2013
#82
So it's perfectly fine for a perp to be killed, as long as tactics are conventional?
LisaL
Feb 2013
#84
Well, if that someone wasn't setting out to kill them, maybe they would be more inclined to try.
LisaL
Feb 2013
#85
He had already tried to leave the cabin but they pushed him back in, I guess using guns.
dkf
Feb 2013
#98
I'm incredulous that you don't see they had an urgency because he could have escaped.
dkf
Feb 2013
#113
He killed himself only because he realized he couldn't kill any more cops.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#108
They didn't move in. Instead of sending people, they sent tear gas cannisters in.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#115
Did Dahmer, Manson, or Gacy resist arrest by shooting at officers when they approached?
onenote
Feb 2013
#180
"There are other questions that legitimately should be asked about the LAPD."
nobodyspecial
Feb 2013
#186