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In reply to the discussion: What "due process" does not mean: [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)16. Some rights aren't waivable.
Here, they weren't even applicable.
Dorner was an active safety threat that needed to be neutralized. The standard in such instances is 'cops gotta do what they can to stop him.'
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A large portion of DU thinks that it's never okay for cops to kill someone.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#2
Can you offer even ONE link saying that, much less enough to prove a 'large portion'?
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#47
You missed all the hysterical claims that this was a lynching, murder, vigilantism,
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#50
Are you seriously asking how they didn't know that the standard tear gas didn't
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#76
Due process does not require them to sit there forever waiting for the guy.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#89
The PD can not decide to kill based upon what they unilaterally determine is in the best interest of
EOTE
Feb 2013
#100
When a suspect is armed, dangerous, has killed, kidnapped, and carjacked and has refused to
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#104
So you think that police have the right to murder anyone that doesn't surrender to them. Got it.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#178
Doesn't getting due process pretty much equal not being able to kill regardless of the threat?
dkf
Feb 2013
#92
And that's the nub of the issue--not only are the police 'allowed to use deadly force,' they
MADem
Feb 2013
#84
How are YOU so sure he wasn't already injured and unable to come out when the place got purposely
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#208
You are talking about two different police departments, so stop with the "they" nonsense.
MADem
Feb 2013
#217
Not defending that guy......are you defending the ends justifying the means?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#225
Half Baked conspiracies? I have the audio archive to PROVE they fired incendiary devices
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#229
You don't have "evidence." You have words you are interpreting in a specific way to suit your
MADem
Feb 2013
#234
No I have an actual audio recording ......admit it....you never even listened to see what I had!
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#235
So that means YOU DIDN'T listen to the actual police scanner audio tape archived right?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#237
Reached it the same way you can....you can hear the orders with your own ears
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#206
the sent "incendiary devices" into that building and then denied that they started the fire
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#207
No, we ask that due process is followed regardless of whether or not the cops are really angry.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#53
did they bother to ask the old ladies delivering newspapers to surrender? Or the surfer?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#211
Jeffery Dahmer had heads in his fridge....yet he was asked to surrender....he got due process
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#213
They "asked him to surrender" like they asked those two old ladies in the pickup to surrender?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#209
I am not defending him.....but are you defending the ends justify the means?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#224
In the case of subduing an armed, murderous lunatic, yes tear gas was justified.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#227
Based on his manifesto, I am pretty sure he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory.
LisaL
Feb 2013
#10
Their lips are moving? Or, you can listen to the radio feeds from when the fire was started.
EOTE
Feb 2013
#57
Why is it idiotic to think that Dorner started the fire after the cannisters were deployed?
Light House
Feb 2013
#75
7 incendiary devices were delivered yet they don't know how the fire started?
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2013
#210
"Anyone who says that Chris Dorner was deprived of due process because cops stopped letting
Hissyspit
Feb 2013
#30
Did the LEOs know without a doubt there was noone else in the cabin before the "burn the
pkdu
Feb 2013
#33
stand offs that last a long time are in situations where people aren't being shot at
TorchTheWitch
Feb 2013
#36
It is willful ignorance and purposeful mis-statements of facts such as this
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#41
He was executed by the police. Why didn't they just use a sniper to blow him away?
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#127
Why didn't you answer the question? Why not simply use a sniper to take him out?
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#164
I didn't attack the messenger, but rather the message he has flogged off in the OP.
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#124
That's exactly what I wrote about in the initial reply, contorting the facts to fit
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#148
Due process does not mean 'I see a truck, let's unload our weapons without warning'.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#49
This is not about the abhorrent actions by those cops against those civilians.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#51
I think he made a very fine first impression, but didn't have the emotional fortitude or the
MADem
Feb 2013
#125
I don't think those of us claiming lack of due process are claiming that he was a good guy.
Buzz Clik
Feb 2013
#82
LOL !!! - Another "Great American" Pipes In... - Proving He Knows NOTHING Of BEING An American...
WillyT
Feb 2013
#218