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The CTers have that covered already... zappaman Feb 2013 #1
Wow. I knew he was a loon but I didn't know HOW looney. randome Feb 2013 #2
If you wade through the babbling, you get gems like geek tragedy Feb 2013 #3
"Yeah, just be an asshole like Cha Feb 2013 #12
From the manifesto geek tragedy Feb 2013 #14
Oh no.. Cha Feb 2013 #17
makes it easy to gun him down and carry on tiny elvis Feb 2013 #129
He is a sick man. nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #4
I don't think anyone is arguing he is a good guy or saint quinnox Feb 2013 #5
Plenty of people raising doubt as to whether he's actually killed anyone. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #6
That reminds me of the fox routine of "some people." nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #20
"Innocent until proven guilty" is a legal concept, not one that applies geek tragedy Feb 2013 #23
I prefer a country where this is understood. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #29
I do not defend the indefensible re: LAPD or Torrance. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #32
Lots of people claiming it's not his fault, that he was pushed into cali Feb 2013 #7
The same people who will claim to know WHY he killed will then turn around geek tragedy Feb 2013 #9
That's a common one RZM Feb 2013 #27
Typical conversation: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #30
It's called moral hedging. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #151
A Chick Fil A defender, wha wha wha? Send in the Hellfire Drones NightWatcher Feb 2013 #8
He says he's wants to "reclaim my name"..?! LeftinOH Feb 2013 #10
"I'm a murderer, not a filer of false reports!" nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #11
Written confessions don't really prove anything RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #13
Did you read what you wrote? Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #16
We will never know anything for certain RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #48
The part where it said "I'm not sure, but I'm sure." nt Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #49
Can't prove evolution with 100% certainty. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #51
Comparing a known fact to a theory. Good one, Dr. Logic. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #103
Yes, thank you. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #127
Facebook posts are not admissible as criminal evidence. morningfog Feb 2013 #91
Not if the author admits to his authorship. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #104
Sure, under oath. If they have a defense lawyer worth a damn, they won't. morningfog Feb 2013 #106
He'd best not at any time, under oath or not, if he wants the prosecutor not to bring it up. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #110
They get used against people routinely. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #148
Will you next argue that we are all in a cave and "know" only shadows? WinkyDink Feb 2013 #112
I was wavering on Dorner until you mentioned Chick-Fil-A. That's a game changer. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #15
Well, there is the part where he talks about his plan to kill children geek tragedy Feb 2013 #18
LOL. Nicely done RZM Feb 2013 #31
If what the presumed guilty writes abolishes their legal presumption of innocence prior to trial, Occulus Feb 2013 #19
The presumption of innocence means that the state can't punish you geek tragedy Feb 2013 #24
On the contrary; to prospective jurors, that's exactly what it *must* mean Occulus Feb 2013 #57
I am not a potential juror. Could you serve on Dick Cheney's jury geek tragedy Feb 2013 #62
Niiiiice. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #95
Irony is this entire vendetta is because he refutes being found guilty of being a liar dkf Feb 2013 #137
presumption of innocence is a legal concept. No one is saying that Dorner shouldn't have cali Feb 2013 #25
Holy crap. This guy makes the Unabomber look sane by comparison. Initech Feb 2013 #21
Yeah, well. sibelian Feb 2013 #22
i can't believe people think this guy has any credibility JI7 Feb 2013 #26
Well, they simultaneously argue: geek tragedy Feb 2013 #28
He admitted to murder so it's the LAPD's job to abelenkpe Feb 2013 #33
The LAPD doing its job on a number of fronts would be a welcome geek tragedy Feb 2013 #34
So true! nt abelenkpe Feb 2013 #35
NONE of which justifies his extrajudicial killing by any LEO. ALL accused in the US are kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #36
There's a world of difference between "due process must be followed" geek tragedy Feb 2013 #38
Well, let me tell you that the law does not allow for fugitives to claim due process rights msanthrope Feb 2013 #55
Who precisely is stating he should be denied due process by the courts? LanternWaste Feb 2013 #132
One does not have to be sane, nor a saint to be a whistleblower jeff47 Feb 2013 #37
If he'll let himself be captured. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #39
At this point, he seems to mostly be running jeff47 Feb 2013 #41
If you read his manifesto, he repeatedly says he's not afraid to die, geek tragedy Feb 2013 #42
Sure, he wrote that. But he's not charging towards the cops guns blazing (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #45
He is already accused of killing a cop. LisaL Feb 2013 #46
Yes, which isn't a "blaze of glory" like the other poster was talking about. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #47
He wants to take as many with him as possible. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #50
Severely libodem Feb 2013 #40
Yes. I agree. He's severely disturbed and he's gone over the edge. yardwork Feb 2013 #52
What a mess libodem Feb 2013 #53
I am sure that some of his relatives noticed this gathering. yardwork Feb 2013 #54
Yes libodem Feb 2013 #56
It's very sad. All these people dead and he will die. yardwork Feb 2013 #58
Yes libodem Feb 2013 #63
It almost seems like he was picking up bits and pieces of popular culture. yardwork Feb 2013 #70
His ex-girlfriend did....years ago. dkf Feb 2013 #84
That about says it all libodem Feb 2013 #88
With all his hate; greiner3 Feb 2013 #43
Assholitarian. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #44
This revelation only makes me hate the guy even more robertkdem1965_h89 Feb 2013 #59
Was this said in a court of law? Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #60
+++1,000,000,000 shcrane71 Feb 2013 #61
So, you also doubt that he was wrongly fired and was motivated by LAPD geek tragedy Feb 2013 #67
Please use linear arguments. Now just what are you (anonymous person I've never shcrane71 Feb 2013 #71
Point being, if you don't have any opinion as to whether he killed anyone, logically geek tragedy Feb 2013 #75
So, you don't examine facts using your own mind, but rather geek tragedy Feb 2013 #65
I believe in the 6th. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #68
So, you don't believe Cheney and Kissinger are war criminals then. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #69
What I believe is that there needs to be a trial in a court of law. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #76
Do you know who shot the children of Sandy Hook or have an opinion geek tragedy Feb 2013 #79
You are asking a different question than who is "guilty." morningfog Feb 2013 #94
If there's ever a trial, then the legalities will matter more. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #100
Even if you don't have a belief FrodosPet Feb 2013 #139
To much iffy, hear say to say anything. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #146
This is getting more telling. Fuck juries! LOL! morningfog Feb 2013 #93
Juries don't create facts, they only look at them. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #101
Ken Lay was innocent! Innocent, I tell you!! Pure as the driven snow! MADem Feb 2013 #113
OJ Simpson caused Nicole Brown's death by slashing her throat, but he committed geek tragedy Feb 2013 #117
Facebook posts are not admissible or reliable. morningfog Feb 2013 #92
Under what rule of evidence? Nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #102
They can't be verified as authentic. morningfog Feb 2013 #105
That's just factually incorrect. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #111
Incorrect -- admissible in both civil and criminal cases obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #169
They most definitely are obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #168
Sorry, I turned off theKed Feb 2013 #64
Oh, so you don't pay attention to facts unless they've been adjudicated in a court of law? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #66
Nice. theKed Feb 2013 #72
I'm saying that we as private citizens are not bound by the rules surrounding geek tragedy Feb 2013 #74
No, we cannot theKed Feb 2013 #77
Legally and factually are different concepts. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #78
There is no criminal conviction theKed Feb 2013 #82
I'm not convicting him. I am looking at the facts. The presumption of innocence applies geek tragedy Feb 2013 #85
How do you feel about theKed Feb 2013 #97
What about it? First Amendment. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #98
Hey, I'm calling sunrise tomorrow! Your point? WinkyDink Feb 2013 #116
Legally. But only lobotomies can prevent people from thinking otherwise. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #115
That is where you a wrong. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #83
The law does not require private citizens to abstain from forming a factual belief geek tragedy Feb 2013 #86
We, so that the system can truly work ,must not rush to judgment. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #121
Yes, people who think for themselves are destroying democracy. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #122
People who don't know all the facts, and we will not know all till a trial, are. Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #124
The world is full of people who know their way of thinking is right. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #125
And I am glad to know my way is seen as right due to 2 great documents.n/t Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #147
You are completely, 100% incorrect re: trials, jurors, and the general public. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #114
It goes,"Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law." Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #123
Wow. He is sicko. He thinks that murdering will vindicate him. Makes no sense. Filled with hate... Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #73
He is the "alleged murderer" because he is innocent until found guilty by a court Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #80
Legally, sure, but the legal world is a distortion of the real world. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #81
Trials are every bit as perfect as the people involved in them. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2013 #87
That's fair. Also fair would be for someone like me to be excluded from geek tragedy Feb 2013 #89
That is a respectable admission on your part. morningfog Feb 2013 #96
People not on the jury can call him guilty as hell if we want. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #107
LOL at your "innocent before proven guilty crowd." morningfog Feb 2013 #90
Legally, I agree. But there are people accusing those who state that he did kill those geek tragedy Feb 2013 #99
Dorner is one of the bad guys in this story. A stone cold killer who needs to got to trial. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #130
I see where you're coming from, but if I in any way seemed to geek tragedy Feb 2013 #133
But you sure seem to be defending LAPD. Not a critical word toward the cop in my story, not a Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #140
It's definitive only if you're determined to put words in people's mouths. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #145
I put no words in your mouth, nor did you. It was your lack of words, your silence that I find Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #157
I do agree strongly, It just seems so obvious that it goes without saying. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #158
This is a discussion board and not a trial, in case you missed that salient tidbit. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #109
Oh, I didn't miss it. But, when someone rails against those morningfog Feb 2013 #120
And the state has declared he is guilty of being a liar. dkf Feb 2013 #138
What? Your post makes no sense. morningfog Feb 2013 #142
Dorner is mad because he is was found guilty by a court of lying about Evans kicking Gettler. dkf Feb 2013 #144
What court found him guilty of lying? morningfog Feb 2013 #149
Here dkf Feb 2013 #150
Did you read that? Do you understand civil suits? morningfog Feb 2013 #152
He was charged with making false accusations. dkf Feb 2013 #153
He was not found guilty of lying in a court. morningfog Feb 2013 #154
So why did he need to clear his name? dkf Feb 2013 #159
You are changing the question. morningfog Feb 2013 #160
You say I can't say he was found guilty of lying by a court. dkf Feb 2013 #163
The court found there was not sufficient evidence to overturn the administrative decision. morningfog Feb 2013 #164
Vandalizing (graffiti) their locations does not help any cause. Fla_Democrat Feb 2013 #108
I hope they apprehend him and stop him from hurting anyone else. darkangel218 Feb 2013 #118
Agree 100%. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #119
He thinks that killing people will help him restore his "good name." tblue37 Feb 2013 #126
in the America I grew up in... dtom67 Feb 2013 #128
Yes, yes you're right, the real victim here isn't Monica Quan, it's Chris Dorner. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #134
How you took that from what the other poster said is incomprehensible. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #141
The person said that we don't know that he's guilty, and won't know geek tragedy Feb 2013 #143
Characterization. We can read what others write. Upthread you accuse me of putting words in Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #155
Honestly, your story was so disturbing I didn't know how to react. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #156
And it was that passivity and silence that I found objectionable. Yet you claimed I put words Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #165
I am not your monkey. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #166
Talk about putting words into the mouth of another. When response fails you, you accuse others. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #170
Yes, you say something and then try to grade the responses because they did not geek tragedy Feb 2013 #171
His victims had no chance of surrender, either. randome Feb 2013 #135
We have To Find Reasons To Hate This Clown DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2013 #131
If you hate this guy and assume he killed them (because of his own admission) geek tragedy Feb 2013 #136
The line in the OP reminded me of this: ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #161
Well, Chik Fil-A has fewer supporters here than Dorner does. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #162
K&ring this obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #167
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