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In reply to the discussion: MY ATTEMPT TO MAKE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH USER FRIENDLY TO DUrs. [View all]ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)From 1982-2005, that was his responsibility. The recent document dump in Los Angeles even has correspondence between Mahoney and the Rat, proving how they conspired to throw sand into any litigation or discovery. The Rat's connections with Rev. Marciel Maciel are even more horrendous. The crimes were so numerous, and the Rat's support of Maciel and his thuggish organization so strong, it is impossible to view the Rat as anything but a career criminal conspirator.
And what of the financial crimes? The Vatican Bank is a criminal organization. Money laundering for the Mafia, drug lords, weapons dealers, perhaps even terrorist states, and extremely questionable dealings by the Roman Curia were uncovered as recently as July, 2012. The man behind the crimes and their stonewalling cover-ups is the current Vatican Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone. Not only does he double deal on the world political stage, he has his sticky fingers on the 7-8 Billion euros that are directly controlled by the Vatican.
There is no indication that the Vatican Bank and the Sec. of State have changed their ways since the 1980s, when the corrupt Milanese banker Robert Calvi and the mafia financier Michele Sidona were found to be fronting for drug dealers, weapons sales (often to groups directly opposed to NATO interests), and other fascinating, corrupt practices. When one avenue for crimes was ended because of the Banco collapse in the mid 1980s, (under Archbishop Paul Marcinkus) the Vatican simply moved its dirty dealings to two accounts at JP Morgan Chase, opened by the Vatican Bank.
After the Rat was made pope in 2005, millions of Vatican dollars were deposited to one account in Milan, then transferred (and laundered) in another JP Morgan account in Germany, effectively erasing the trail of how the Vatican originally got the funds. After Italian police froze tens of millions of dollars in the Milan account, the Vatican begged, bribed, stonewalled, and pushed for the the re-openning of that account and release of those funds. Eventually Italy agreed to release the funds it froze, but it refuses to put the Vatican Bank back on the list of approved banks. In simpler terms, the Vatican Bank is still so dirty and connected with mob, drug, and arms dealing money, that not even the Italian Government allows it to do business with any Euro bank or government, or allows it to do international business. That is why you can no longer use credit cards in the Vatican City. Because its bank is so corrupt and involved in illegal activities.
There is no way around the fact that the Vatican Bank invested in and profited from crime, and did everything possible to keep its many ties to crime and heavy duty criminals quiet. When you launder money for drug dealers and weapons dealers, some responsibility has to rub off. Many groups currently blowing up parts of our allies' citizens might be armed only because of the criminal acts by the Vatican Bank.
Explain all the criminal ties, all the criminal acts, and make it fit with your demand that we treat this criminal organization as though it offered some benefit to people. I can't see how it does.