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Showing Original Post only (View all)Why The Gun Lobby Is Terrified Of California - from Mother Jones - *5-cent tax on each bullet* [View all]
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/02/why-gun-lobby-terrified-california"As it is with many issues, California is out front on firearms regulations," said Mark Hedlund, a spokesman for California Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg. "We don't represent the NRA. We don't think that the NRA represents the majority of Californians, by a long shot."
California's newly proposed gun laws would:
-Ban the possession of ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds
-Prevent the future sale, purchase, manufacture, importation, or transfer of any firearms that can accept detachable magazines
-Close the "bullet button" loophole by banning tools that allow the quick changing of gun magazines
-Regulate ammunition sales like the state regulates gun sales. Ammunition dealers would need to be licensed and anyone buying from them would need to obtain a permit and complete a background check.
-Create a 5-cent tax on each bullet purchased, for the purpose of funding crime prevention
-Prevent felons and other adults barred from gun ownership from living in a house that contains any guns
-Prohibit the loaning or sale of a firearm between people who know each other personally
-Take steps to phase out legal possession of assault weapons that were purchased before California outlawed their sale
-Require all firearms owners to take an hours-long gun safety course every year, similar to what the state now requires for obtaining a concealed weapon permit
-Require gun owners to purchase insurance to cover damage they may inflict
-Require CalPERS and CalSTRS, two of the nation's largest pension funds, to divest from companies that make, sell, or market firearms or ammunition
(those are all worth bolding so i didn't bother...)
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If enacted, the new laws might do for guns what the California's pollution and fuel economy rules did for the nation's automobiles. In 2011 alone, Californians bought 600,000 firearms; only Texas sports more registered weapons. "The gun industry has a love/hate relationship with California," Hedlund says. "They hate our gun regulations because they are among the toughest in the country, but they love our marketplace."
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farminator3000
Feb 2013
OP
why spend $50 in gas to save $50 on ammo? the idea might be to FORCE a court challenge...
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#8
That is like saying the ink in printing presses isn't covered by the 1st A.
former9thward
Feb 2013
#71
The government cannot control the press by taxing ink or paper at an onerous rate
hack89
Feb 2013
#102
We have a right to a free press, but the government can still put a sales tax on ink and paper.
JDPriestly
Feb 2013
#79
I wonder what your response would be if a tax of 5 cents a post on the internet ....
former9thward
Feb 2013
#169
Okay, then how about a tax on Internet connectivity or on devices to connect to the Internet?
jmowreader
Feb 2013
#231
a don't think a Dem supermajority in house and senate is 'wishful thinking'...
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#192
all it takes is some new laws, a new court. The NRA is dead, they just don't know it yet.
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#15
i think buried in the federal law there's something about dealers needing to be 'sort of sure'
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#44
Something tells me that Dorner's rampage might put a crimp in this draconian legislation
derby378
Feb 2013
#4
The way some of these cops have behaved during the manhunt, shooting and terrifying civilians...
derby378
Feb 2013
#36
Oh I see, you say people should have equal firepower to cops so...what?
Downtown Hound
Feb 2013
#136
maybe target shooters could get a break on the tax- like over $50, it becomes a penny each
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#16
bullets are NOT mentioned in the constitution either.(neither are guns of course)
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#99
I do support California having check points for produce and applying it forward
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#118
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose, which is nothing.
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#125
Then declare every fee,permit,registration,tax on sales,sin taxes,property taxes
libtodeath
Feb 2013
#116
Better idea: Let's put a $10,000 tax on vehicles that get less than 27 MPG.
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2013
#85
Corvettes are actually pretty light- minivans, trucks & most SUVs not so much...
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2013
#103
a poor waitress could get a tax break with her paystub + safety class certificate
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#72
CA definitely punishes the poor. They're just not well known and quiet about it.
Sirveri
Feb 2013
#204
i wouldn't blame Cali for that. 'departments of vehicles' are atrocious wherever you go
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#216
and now for my 2,000th post...a bit of ironic sarcasm...totally unlike me, i know
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#93
I just ordered about $400 worth of reloading equipment. I've reloaded in the past.
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#112
FINALLY! Three digits in replies before somebody mentions the obvious workaround.
dmallind
Feb 2013
#139
That makes me think of the gun culture guy in 2008 primaries and Biden's response.
Hoyt
Feb 2013
#160
There are some AWESOME measures in this legislation that nobody is talking about at all
Hugabear
Feb 2013
#149
i'll talk about 'em! (perhaps the 'gun enthusiasts' are shocked into speechlessness?)
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#153
Seriously, Travis, are truly poor people partaking in expensive hobbies like target shooting?
jmowreader
Feb 2013
#163
For the most common type of ammunition sold, by far, it would amount to $2.50 per box
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#168
sure doesn't sound regressive to me- a person that can barely afford $4 probably doesn't shoot much
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#177
Majority unconstitutional... and a couple of particularly stupid/illegal ones...
Coyote_Tan
Feb 2013
#162
Great proposals, especially the ammo tax. As the country is turning Blue, these same laws
apocalypsehow
Feb 2013
#174
Oh yes it is, and in our lifetimes, the way the country is trending. Further, as poll taxes
apocalypsehow
Feb 2013
#183
Exactly. Spot on reply. Every time an article or notion comes up about increasing the ammo
apocalypsehow
Feb 2013
#186
Thanks! There was an organized attempt to alert-stalk by a small group obsessed with me in
apocalypsehow
Feb 2013
#193
tax the ammo by GRAIN (the weight of the lead part that flies and hits things)!!! yup.
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#187
blah blah blah-^^^ no links, no truth...and a little...well, you decide...
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#226
nope, not funny. but thanks for the idea, i'll include it in my email to the CA Senators
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#232
a short lesson in hip hop, from a punk farmer. don't be hatin' the game, yo
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#237
So... if I go to the range with my non-shooting buddy, and we both use my gun, I go to jail?
Sirveri
Feb 2013
#205
Take steps to phase out legal possession of assault weapons that were purchased before California
xoom
Feb 2013
#208
Santa Clara County announces gun buy back event - Federal gun law proposals already in place in Cali
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#242