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KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
47. It's A Tough Call...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:32 AM
Feb 2013

...primarily since this technology is inexpensive and is sure to get moreso (and more sophisticated) over time. I'm fully for the establishment of judicial oversight on the use of drones...including for domestic surveillance.

In the case of "war" this genie is long out of the bottle...our "success" is being viewed by other countries who are adding drones to their military arsenal. Except for those on our side of the sandbox, you've heard little international condemnation of the use of drones in the Middle East and I find that indicative of how others want to reserve the right to use these weapons for their own purposes (such as the French in Mali). There needs to be some kind of international protocols on the use of these weapons and where it's abuse can be constituted as a war crime.

As far as for domestic purposes, I see many positive uses of drones in public safety issues...and to monitor the public officials who have the access and ability to abuse this technology...

Cheers...

Don't know how accurate this site is. applegrove Feb 2013 #1
MSN. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #17
Thanks for the confirmation. I really didn't know whether or not to leave the thread up or not. applegrove Feb 2013 #18
I cannot fathom why people are alarmed by this. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #2
If the LAPD have a lethal force order because Dorner has demonstrated he applegrove Feb 2013 #4
Except there are no armed drones being used by the LAPD. randome Feb 2013 #6
No lethal force order would be valid for a drone (IF it were armed) kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #9
LAPD has demonstrated they're throwing due process out the window. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #10
LAPD are shooting to kill before gaining positive ID. They cannot be trusted with guns, they cannot Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #16
This is not about reconnaissance. Police, DHS, and FBI have been flying spy drones in the US Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #19
It's reconnaissance because THE DRONES AREN'T ARMED. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2013 #21
Then why would they even make an announcement since they've been using drones to spy Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #23
They didn't announce anything. jeff47 Feb 2013 #53
And I can't fathom why you aren't alarmed by this. Live and Learn Feb 2013 #30
Because police have demonstrated they can't be trusted with helicopters, right? jeff47 Feb 2013 #54
Redirects to a story in the UK Daily Express demwing Feb 2013 #3
Very polite of you :-) Ian Iam Feb 2013 #7
Totally appropriate use of the technology. longship Feb 2013 #5
Yes, of course, until sibelian Feb 2013 #12
Exactly right Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #20
Sure, let's wait until they start using armed drones against citizens Live and Learn Feb 2013 #31
But they are NOT armed, are they? longship Feb 2013 #32
My logic comes from not waiting until the slippery slope concludes its logical Live and Learn Feb 2013 #33
I fully understand your position. longship Feb 2013 #34
But it is not neutral. It is an invasion of privacy. Live and Learn Feb 2013 #35
I don't agree. longship Feb 2013 #37
Poor Donner's right to privacy is being violated. Boo fucking hoo. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #46
Compared to Gun Deaths otohara Feb 2013 #8
But they used drones to capture Jimmy Lee Dykes. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #11
And why do we find collateral damage unacceptable here, but not over there? n/t markpkessinger Feb 2013 #13
Hypocrisy? JaneyVee Feb 2013 #14
Because we have other options here. jeff47 Feb 2013 #22
The 178+ children killed by drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen find that small consolation. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #24
How many children died in Iraq and Afghanistan? jeff47 Feb 2013 #52
Are you actually implying that Iraq had something to do with 9/11? That was only about grabbing oil. Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #56
No. I'm saying W could invade because of the aftermath jeff47 Feb 2013 #57
Uh, he was in an underground bunker jberryhill Feb 2013 #15
"FBI sources said surveillance drones constantly monitored the situation." HiPointDem Feb 2013 #25
Invisible ones the assembled press couldn't see jberryhill Feb 2013 #27
do you have a link for the press claiming they saw no drones? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #28
Brilliant! jberryhill Feb 2013 #29
+1 n/t Silent3 Feb 2013 #43
Hehehe... SidDithers Feb 2013 #50
ZOMG O NO O NO DRONES NEW WORLD ORDER ALEX JONES WAS RIGHT ZOMG DRONES ROBOT APOOKALYPSE ZOMG O NO Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #26
Bullshit. Drones have been used to look for people along the US/Mexico border and FSogol Feb 2013 #36
I don't think the title is factual Shankapotomus Feb 2013 #38
Can you describe the underground drones used on Dykes? jberryhill Feb 2013 #39
Lol Shankapotomus Feb 2013 #40
They've Been Using Surveillance Drones On The Border... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #41
No argument here Shankapotomus Feb 2013 #45
It's A Tough Call... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #47
And drones are great for... Shankapotomus Feb 2013 #51
It's the Hunger Games, dudes! We're all gonna be next! randome Feb 2013 #42
Heaven forbid they use legal, non-lethal technology to capture an armed mass murderer. geek tragedy Feb 2013 #44
Breaking... Dorner revealed to be al Qaeda #2 in California MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #48
sounds like Americas police have unlimited $$ to search for one person Sunlei Feb 2013 #49
bullshit nebenaube Feb 2013 #55
not really, the border patrol has been using them for some time now arely staircase Feb 2013 #58
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